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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 11, 2011 9:23:46 GMT -8
One other thing... BCFS's keeps talking about 'a whole new level of service' on the northern routes once the Norad starts running. Just what exactly does that expression mean?
Perhaps it will cost you extra to use the louge where the forward facing portholes are located. The above quote from 2007 is quite prophetic, considering the Aurora pay-lounge on the NorEx.
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Post by mrdot on Jun 11, 2011 10:36:57 GMT -8
:)norad is not just a fuel pig, but a she can be a total maritime hog, when doing hard time on Hecate Strait! Someone was saying that the second hand Mols lines vessels, at 15 years are reletively new, well the Sonja at almost new, was already trash! Vessels loveingly maintained like Black Ball's Coho, can be in better shape than so called new ships like Sonja! :)mrdot.
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Post by gordon on Sept 9, 2011 7:02:17 GMT -8
When does the Nor Ad make her southern voyage for the winter?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 9, 2011 7:17:04 GMT -8
When does the Nor Ad make her southern voyage for the winter? In previous years, we've been able to figure this out by looking at the schedule on the BCFS website, which would list the various ships serving the north-coast autumn schedule. Maybe the schedules still do that? I haven't checked. Klemtu was another old clue, re the ability or inability of a large ship to stop there. - that's no longer a clue, because the NorEx is now able to stop at Klemtu.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 9, 2011 7:22:44 GMT -8
Around about Oct. 1st she should be headed south. I expect her to return north in April to cover for the NorEx during the latters pre-summer refit.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 19, 2011 6:53:30 GMT -8
The news-blog thetyee.ca has a story today about the ferry Northern Adventure, specifically about their investigation into the 2007 "rushed into service" issues with safety rules. Here it is: thetyee.ca/News/2011/09/19/BCFerries_Slip_Ship/A quick excerpt:
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 21, 2011 7:13:22 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 28, 2011 19:32:01 GMT -8
More troubles for the NorAd.... Service Notice - Northern Adventure - Elevator Out Of Servicewww.bcferries.com/bcfservicenotice?id=550613I seem to recall that they recently spent a large sum of money to fix or replace the elevator. The good news is that the NorAd is done for this year as of the end of this week.
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Post by Retrovision on Oct 8, 2011 23:47:46 GMT -8
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Post by mrdot on Oct 9, 2011 18:06:06 GMT -8
:)retro. has some very good river traffic shots, some of the tug shots are particularly good, however the norad is not one of my favorites, and does not beautify the Fraser estuary as many of the older classic vessels do! :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 10, 2012 19:49:39 GMT -8
"Just Ferries" YouTube video of NorAd, arriving at Prince Rupert. - shows Matanuska in the AMHS berth.
Shot from the departing NorEx in the morning.
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Post by Ferryman on Mar 28, 2012 18:38:43 GMT -8
A few photos from last week of the NorAd at Bear Cove As seen from the Coast Guard Dock at Port Hardy Some interior shots: The forward lounge/Kids zone play area The Main lounge. Mid ship stair tower, which still sports the Greek carpet Aft cafeteria seating of Deck 6 Deck 5 lobby area, in front of the Chief Stewards Office, with Native Art collections The Port side Cabin Alleyway on Deck 5 Finally, a few photos on the cold crisp morning of March 22nd
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Post by mrdot on Mar 28, 2012 19:27:15 GMT -8
:)a very nice tour thru our northern caddelac! mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 1, 2012 1:00:43 GMT -8
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Post by gordon on Apr 1, 2012 8:42:53 GMT -8
Does the Nor Ad always dock stern first, or is her bow visor operational?
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Post by Nick on Apr 1, 2012 8:51:35 GMT -8
Does the Nor Ad always dock stern first, or is her bow visor operational? NorAd does not and never has had a bow visor.
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Post by mrdot on Apr 1, 2012 8:55:46 GMT -8
:)that's one of the big problems with norad, their is no bow doors, and I don't know which rocket scientest thought they did not need a true ro-ro vessel on the north coast! even when wacky's first concepts of the queen of kelsey bay were being formulated knew he needed a true ro-ro vessel for this run! mrdot.
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Post by gordon on Apr 1, 2012 9:24:34 GMT -8
So the Nor Ad is not a true Ro Ro. This must make unloding Semis as slow process. Was she not designed with bow doors or did B.C. Ferries seal them for some reason?
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Post by Nick on Apr 1, 2012 9:36:24 GMT -8
So the Nor Ad is not a true Ro Ro. This must make unloding Semis as slow process. Was she not designed with bow doors or did B.C. Trains seal them for some reason? It is a common misconception that RORO refers to the ability to load on both ends of the ship. All it refers to is the ability for the cargo to "roll on, roll off" the ship, ie there are ramps etc to allow the cargo to drive itself rather than being lifted or otherwise loaded. The Northern Adventure has never had a bow visor, clam doors or any other method of loading through the bow. She has always been and still is a stern load only vessel. The few times I have seen the NorAd loading, it hasn't taken much if any longer than loading the NorEx. While yes, it is more complicated backing the semis on, they seem to have it worked out pretty well and are pretty efficient at it.
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Post by mrdot on Apr 1, 2012 13:35:52 GMT -8
:)the correct description is they needed a true drive-thru ro-ro, which was realized way back the sixties when tenders were let for the QPR and a possible sister Q of Kelsey Bay, but instead these new age private mgrs. thot a bastardized greek stern loader would do! loading this greek wondership is a special challenge on the long & winding ramp on the charlottes! mrdot.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 1, 2012 18:29:15 GMT -8
I've wondered for awhile if BCF will install a bow visor in a future MLU or major refit. It would be a huge undertaking, but not as huge as stretching seven ships and lifting six. What kind of possibility is there for such an installation? She DOES function perfectly fine with just the stern door, but a bow door would simplify operations. I'm assuming it would only happen if BCF came into a surplus of money (as if that will ever happen).
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 1, 2012 18:53:36 GMT -8
I've wondered for awhile if BCF will install a bow visor in a future MLU or major refit. It would be a huge undertaking, but not as huge as stretching seven ships and lifting six. What kind of possibility is there for such an installation? She DOES function perfectly fine with just the stern door, but a bow door would simplify operations. I'm assuming it would only happen if BCF came into a surplus of money (as if that will ever happen). Those stretched and lifted ships were built differently, and maybe designed better... I suggested the same modifications at some point.
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Post by mrdot on Apr 1, 2012 19:16:11 GMT -8
:)not maybe designed better, they were specifically planned for this pacific north-coast, and built here, and there were other options, for a quick replacement vessel, while another specifically designed vessel was built. but now with our expertise pritty much gone, and a different economy, the generation that will live on past my life experience, may be limited to such things as wall mart greeter! mrdot.
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 1, 2012 19:28:54 GMT -8
But now with our expertise pritty much gone, and a different economy, the generation that will live on past my life experience, may be limited to such things as wall mart greeter! mrdot. This is a comment I don't like seeing, but it seems the negative prophecies being offered up for my generation keep growing increasing apocalyptic with each new issue of McLeans. I really don't think this has anything to do with the design differences between 1960's era designed doubled-ended loading Ro-Ros, and a contemporary single-end loading Ro-Ro from Europe. I am sure BCFerries saw the complete blueprints before they bought the ship.
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Post by lmtengs on Apr 1, 2012 19:35:15 GMT -8
...the generation that will live on past my life experience, may be limited to such things as wall mart greeter! mrdot. Ahem.
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