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Post by Mike on Feb 19, 2019 16:45:43 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby approaching Berth 4 at Tsawwassen. March 23, 2014. At the time she was filling in for the Nanaimo, which was out for a much needed refit.  M/V Queen of Burnaby - Tsawwassen by Michael, on Flickr
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Post by Neil on Feb 22, 2019 18:17:06 GMT -8
Sad, but inevitable...
From my vantage point at Deas Island Park this afternoon, I didn't see the Queen of Burnaby across the river. She was there a week ago, so she is likely on her way to the cutting torches of Ensenada.
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Post by Mike on Feb 22, 2019 19:13:10 GMT -8
Sad, but inevitable... From my vantage point at Deas Island Park this afternoon, I didn't see the Queen of Burnaby across the river. She was there a week ago, so she is likely on her way to the cutting torches of Ensenada. She was moved from the side of the basin to an actual berth earlier this week. As far as I know she is still there.  |
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Post by Neil on Feb 22, 2019 19:26:35 GMT -8
Sad, but inevitable... From my vantage point at Deas Island Park this afternoon, I didn't see the Queen of Burnaby across the river. She was there a week ago, so she is likely on her way to the cutting torches of Ensenada. She was moved from the side of the basin to an actual berth earlier this week. As far as I know she is still there. Thanks for that correction, Mike. No way to see the ' Burnaby in her new position from the other side of the river. I wonder why she would be moved, after so long in the same place? |
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Post by straddieferrycaptain on Feb 23, 2019 1:42:27 GMT -8
She was moved from the side of the basin to an actual berth earlier this week. As far as I know she is still there. Thanks for that correction, Mike. No way to see the ' Burnaby in her new position from the other side of the river. I wonder why she would be moved, after so long in the same place? Just as a thought on why she has been moved, It could be that there is some inspection works being carried out of some description to determine how seaworthy she is after 1 1/2 years sitting idle. |
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Post by roeco on Feb 23, 2019 19:40:47 GMT -8
Kinda odd if she was gonna be scrapped wouldn't they just hook her onto a tow line with a tug and tow her to where she is going,you would think any inspections they need to do they could of done where she sat!
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Post by straddieferrycaptain on Feb 23, 2019 23:27:46 GMT -8
Kinda odd if she was gonna be scrapped wouldn't they just hook her onto a tow line with a tug and tow her to where she is going,you would think any inspections they need to do they could of done where she sat! That is very true but sometimes it could depend on what inspection it could be or what access Is given in its location. Just going off what happens for our ferries here for any kind of inspection we have to take them into the city due to have proper access to all parts of said vessel. |
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Post by Kahn_C on Feb 24, 2019 22:37:57 GMT -8
The Sea Wolf has moved from her spot in the corner to the spot the Burnaby was in, so the Burnaby was probably just moved to accommodate whatever they're up to with the Sea Wolf at the moment. (Random speculation: access for a crane?)
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Post by Ferryman on Feb 25, 2019 7:29:20 GMT -8
The Sea Wolf has moved from her spot in the corner to the spot the Burnaby was in, so the Burnaby was probably just moved to accommodate whatever they're up to with the Sea Wolf at the moment. (Random speculation: access for a crane?) Yes. Access for a tug and barge, equipped with a dredging crane to be specifc  |
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Post by pacificcat99 on Jun 5, 2019 13:21:56 GMT -8
Do you think we can say by now that the sale of the Burnaby has fallen through?
It has been sitting for almost two years and been mechanically gutted. Do you think it is still safe to tow it to a scrapyard like Ensenada, Mexico?
Do you think BC Ferries will be stuck with the costs to move it to an alternate location?
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Post by Mike on Jan 16, 2020 21:59:56 GMT -8
Happened to be driving past Deas on Highway 99 this morning, and noticed the Queen of Burnaby is no longer moored along the side of the basin with the Northern Sea Wolf. I'm guessing they finally found somewhere that will take her.
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Post by Neil on Jan 16, 2020 22:11:55 GMT -8
Happened to be driving past Deas on Highway 99 this morning, and noticed the Queen of Burnaby is no longer moored along the side of the basin with the Northern Sea Wolf. I'm guessing they finally found somewhere that will take her. Oh my... under tow to Ensenada at last, since that was what BC Ferries was advertising for? |
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Post by Mike on Jan 18, 2020 15:07:49 GMT -8
Happened to be driving past Deas on Highway 99 this morning, and noticed the Queen of Burnaby is no longer moored along the side of the basin with the Northern Sea Wolf. I'm guessing they finally found somewhere that will take her. Oh my... under tow to Ensenada at last, since that was what BC Ferries was advertising for? It turns out I was a bit premature to say she had been towed off for scrap. She only moved a few kilometers downriver from Deas to Reagle Terminals. Photos taken today.  Queen of Burnaby - Fraser River by Michael, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby - Fraser River by Michael, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby - Fraser River by Michael, on Flickr |
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Post by Mike C on Jan 18, 2020 16:25:37 GMT -8
Interesting timing with this move. It leaves one to speculate that this is to accommodate the Island Class arrival in some way?
That said, I expect BC Ferries has been aiming to free up the space occupied by the Burnaby for some time. I’m sure their preference would be for her to not return to Deas, such that they have some extra space for either the Island Class or other ships going through their seasonal refits.
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Post by Mike on Apr 13, 2020 8:18:24 GMT -8
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Post by Starsteward on Apr 13, 2020 13:10:34 GMT -8
Am I misguided in thinking that for some strange reason the "Queen of Burnaby" always seemed to get the short end of the paint brush throughout her career? I might be wrong but many times we've shown shots of the dear old 'Queen', she seemed to look rather shabby. |
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Post by Neil on Apr 13, 2020 17:40:52 GMT -8
Am I misguided in thinking that for some strange reason the "Queen of Burnaby" always seemed to get the short end of the paint brush throughout her career? I might be wrong but many times we've shown shots of the dear old 'Queen', she seemed to look rather shabby. I think your perception might be based on what she looked like when she was based at Comox. I don't think she was neglected when she was a regular on route two, and of course, she did have a brief taste of stardom on the Seattle route. I think the Comox based vessels regularly were neglected. That route started out with a shiny new Comox Queen in 1964, but after that, it always seemed to get vessels in the twilight of their careers... and it showed. |
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Post by Mike on Apr 13, 2020 18:10:26 GMT -8
I think the Comox based vessels regularly were neglected. That route started out with a shiny new Comox Queen in 1964, but after that, it always seemed to get vessels in the twilight of their careers... and it showed. The fact that the ships overnighted in Little River, which is pretty exposed to weather, also meant that Route 17 vessels tended to show surface rust fairly quickly from all the sea spray kicked up by the wind. |
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Post by Neil on Apr 13, 2020 19:43:25 GMT -8
I think the Comox based vessels regularly were neglected. That route started out with a shiny new Comox Queen in 1964, but after that, it always seemed to get vessels in the twilight of their careers... and it showed. The fact that the ships overnighted in Little River, which is pretty exposed to weather, also meant that Route 17 vessels tended to show surface rust fairly quickly from all the sea spray kicked up by the wind. That could be part of it. But when Department of Highways ran the route, they got the elderly Sechelt Queen and Princess of Vancouver, and did very little to maintain them, at least aesthetically. Queens of Tsawwassen, Sidney, and Burnaby were on the wrong side of their youth as well, and it always seemed to me that BC Ferries treated that route like the red haired child of the strait crossings. |
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Post by Starsteward on Apr 16, 2020 15:15:07 GMT -8
The fact that the ships overnighted in Little River, which is pretty exposed to weather, also meant that Route 17 vessels tended to show surface rust fairly quickly from all the sea spray kicked up by the wind. That could be part of it. But when Department of Highways ran the route, they got the elderly Sechelt Queen and Princess of Vancouver, and did very little to maintain them, at least aesthetically. Queens of Tsawwassen, Sidney, and Burnaby were on the wrong side of their youth as well, and it always seemed to me that BC Ferries treated that route like the red haired child of the strait crossings. Route 17 has surely seen its parade of cast-offs and mis-fits over the years. Perhaps one of those vessels would have to be the venerable Princess of Vancouver. Having served a Summer aboard the dear old Princess, (whilst they were repairing my beloved Queen of Prince Rupert,) (Haddington Reef affair) running the P.O.V. on route 19 was like using a pitchfork at a buffet table. I can imagine cars slipping off the wet rail tracks, as they were jostled about in a 360 degree turn from loading to be unloaded at the other side. Lighting on the rail deck was dismal at best, and the passenger elevator should have been in the Smithsonian Institute years prior to that deployment. Although the P.O.V. had a decent cruising speed, she was not well equipped for turn-arounds at all and must have been a pain, in the you know where, when it came to battling tides, wind-driven currents etc. The dear old Princess had many features that I doubt were ever needed or utilized on route 19. Her wonderful catering and watering-hole amenities as well as her beautiful wood paneled staterooms, were bereft of paying customers. (Although there have been unsubstantiated tales of 'occasional' stateroom deployment on some late evening crossings). Correct me if I'm wrong but with the deployment of the Salish Eagle to route 19, this would be the first brand new vessel ever deployed on that route. To be sure, a vessel that meets the travelling needs of those who use her, unfortunately, it will be without the saucy tales of human interaction of yester-year. |
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Post by Neil on Apr 16, 2020 19:16:36 GMT -8
That could be part of it. But when Department of Highways ran the route, they got the elderly Sechelt Queen and Princess of Vancouver, and did very little to maintain them, at least aesthetically. Queens of Tsawwassen, Sidney, and Burnaby were on the wrong side of their youth as well, and it always seemed to me that BC Ferries treated that route like the red haired child of the strait crossings. Route 17 has surely seen its parade of cast-offs and mis-fits over the years. Perhaps one of those vessels would have to be the venerable Princess of Vancouver. Having served a Summer aboard the dear old Princess, (whilst they were repairing my beloved Queen of Prince Rupert,) (Haddington Reef affair) running the P.O.V. on route 19 was like using a pitchfork at a buffet table. I can imagine cars slipping off the wet rail tracks, as they were jostled about in a 360 degree turn from loading to be unloaded at the other side. Lighting on the rail deck was dismal at best, and the passenger elevator should have been in the Smithsonian Institute years prior to that deployment. Although the P.O.V. had a decent cruising speed, she was not well equipped for turn-arounds at all and must have been a pain, in the you know where, when it came to battling tides, wind-driven currents etc. The dear old Princess had many features that I doubt were ever needed or utilized on route 19. Her wonderful catering and watering-hole amenities as well as her beautiful wood paneled staterooms, were bereft of paying customers. (Although there have been unsubstantiated tales of 'occasional' stateroom deployment on some late evening crossings). Correct me if I'm wrong but with the deployment of the Salish Eagle to route 19, this would be the first brand new vessel ever deployed on that route. To be sure, a vessel that meets the travelling needs of those who use her, unfortunately, it will be without the saucy tales of human interaction of yester-year. I appreciate your reminiscences, since all I remember about taking the Princess of Vancouver from Powell River was that the washroom I used had a window. Odd what stays with you, and with my interest in ferries, I have no idea why I can't remember more about being on different vessels that aren't around anymore. All I remember about Langdale Queen is the upward slope of the forward passenger lounge. Former crew like yourself can fill in a lot of blanks for us. As I mentioned a couple of posts ago, the Comox route started with the brand new Comox Queen, so the Salish vessels are the second and third new ships to serve. |
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Post by Starsteward on Apr 16, 2020 20:23:34 GMT -8
Route 17 has surely seen its parade of cast-offs and mis-fits over the years. Perhaps one of those vessels would have to be the venerable Princess of Vancouver. Having served a Summer aboard the dear old Princess, (whilst they were repairing my beloved Queen of Prince Rupert,) (Haddington Reef affair) running the P.O.V. on route 19 was like using a pitchfork at a buffet table. I can imagine cars slipping off the wet rail tracks, as they were jostled about in a 360 degree turn from loading to be unloaded at the other side. Lighting on the rail deck was dismal at best, and the passenger elevator should have been in the Smithsonian Institute years prior to that deployment. Although the P.O.V. had a decent cruising speed, she was not well equipped for turn-arounds at all and must have been a pain, in the you know where, when it came to battling tides, wind-driven currents etc. The dear old Princess had many features that I doubt were ever needed or utilized on route 19. Her wonderful catering and watering-hole amenities as well as her beautiful wood paneled staterooms, were bereft of paying customers. (Although there have been unsubstantiated tales of 'occasional' stateroom deployment on some late evening crossings). Correct me if I'm wrong but with the deployment of the Salish Eagle to route 19, this would be the first brand new vessel ever deployed on that route. To be sure, a vessel that meets the travelling needs of those who use her, unfortunately, it will be without the saucy tales of human interaction of yester-year. I appreciate your reminiscences, since all I remember about taking the Princess of Vancouver from Powell River was that the washroom I used had a window. Odd what stays with you, and with my interest in ferries, I have no idea why I can't remember more about being on different vessels that aren't around anymore. All I remember about Langdale Queen is the upward slope of the forward passenger lounge. Former crew like yourself can fill in a lot of blanks for us. As I mentioned a couple of posts ago, the Comox route started with the brand new Comox Queen, so the Salish vessels are the second and third new ships to serve. Thanks for that 'Neil', I stand corrected. Don't believe I've ever travelled on the Comox Queen.
Some of the common rooms on the Sechelt Queen were not brightly lit but I do remember one quick foray aboard the Langdale Queen the upwards tilting deck in the forward passenger lounge, which felt weird passing through that lounge which seemed to be almost unlit at the lest of times.
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 14:20:17 GMT -8
It sure is a shame that they won't take care of this boat, I got to steer her and got a certificate for doing so. Long live the V/B-Class!
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Post by Mike on May 2, 2020 15:18:28 GMT -8
It sure is a shame that they won't take care of this boat, I got to steer her and got a certificate for doing so. Long live the V/B-Class! Why would they spend money on a retired ship destined for the scrapyard? |
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2020 15:27:31 GMT -8
I really don't know but I just might buy it myself
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