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Post by bcferryfan87 on Jul 2, 2009 20:53:34 GMT -8
I don't get what is going on with the Queen of the Islands aka St johns fishing lodge.
Someone had a post up that appeared to show a working link for the lodge; yet if the ship is in North Vancouver, it can't be a fishing lodge?! This is the season for that resort isn't it? Does STJ lodge still exist??? (I know there are some links on here about financial probs for it, but then what about their website?).
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jul 2, 2009 21:04:08 GMT -8
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Jul 3, 2009 22:01:31 GMT -8
I'm really scared!!! I don't want to see the Queen of the Islands go, she is a great ship! BC Ferries should buy her back and convert her!
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Post by Neil on Sept 17, 2009 18:22:25 GMT -8
Latest sighting: Just west of the Knight St. Bridge. I believe it was on the south shore of Mitchell Island. A view from the Richmond side would be obscured by something that was alongside it.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 17, 2009 21:50:24 GMT -8
on the homepage when you first open it, an audio caption announces that they have a "newly renovated 236ft. lodge". So would that be shorter or longer than the QotI?
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Post by Neil on Oct 6, 2009 17:01:14 GMT -8
At her latest moorage on Mitchell Island, taken from River Road in Richmond, near Ikea. The blue funnel is covered with some sort of tarp, or perhaps primer, and I saw people on board. Apparently she's getting some work done. I know the photos look washed out, but it was a rather dull day.
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Post by FNS on Oct 6, 2009 18:37:19 GMT -8
At her latest moorage on Mitchell Island, taken from River Road in Richmond, near Ikea. The blue funnel is covered with some sort of tarp, or perhaps primer, and I saw people on board. Apparently she's getting some work done. I know the photos look washed out, but it was a rather dull day. It looks like the QUEEN OF THE ISLANDS is being set up for a new career. Do you see the black paint on the Main Deck curtain plates and the new golden trim on the Saloon Deck level? Looks like the stack is now going to be gray, white, and black. She's much cleaner looking at this time. It would be neat to learn what she's up to now.
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 6, 2009 20:19:57 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 14, 2009 19:31:57 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 14, 2009 20:01:54 GMT -8
The QotI is my favorite BC Ferry, judging by her exterior appearance
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 15, 2009 16:36:20 GMT -8
Taken in July 1976, that's pretty clearly the Queen of the Islands in the background. 2nd vessel is the Bowen Queen?Photo by Dear Ol' Dad.
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Post by FNS on Nov 17, 2009 8:43:36 GMT -8
While looking at vancouver.com's camera this morning, I see the QUEEN OF THE ISLANDS. She is now moored at a location at North Vancouver. She is the one you see on the quarter lower left side of this enlargement. Her new paint job is done. vancouver.com
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Post by lmtengs on Nov 17, 2009 16:19:18 GMT -8
Should the QotI really be in the historic section? She still exists as a ship on the BC coast, just not owned by BC Ferries. She's even still called the Queen of the Islands. So, why isn't she in the 'other "BC" ferries' Board?
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 17, 2009 16:42:55 GMT -8
Should the QotI really be in the historic section? She still exists as a ship on the BC coast, just not owned by BC Ferries. She's even still called the Queen of the Islands. So, why isn't she in the 'other "BC" ferries' Board? Are there known plans by her new owner, that of a marina, to re-engine her and use her as a ferry that we know of? Otherwise I can't see why she should be placed on a current ferry board. ...She was designed specifically for the Tsawwassen to Gulf Islands route... Wasn't she of a Quebec design? This is one possibility I've always thought of for why she was so unstable and unsuited to Route 9, if her hull design was created with the St. Lawrence River in mind, always having to always travel against its flow and designed as such.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 17, 2009 17:16:54 GMT -8
Should the QotI really be in the historic section? She still exists as a ship on the BC coast, just not owned by BC Ferries. She's even still called the Queen of the Islands. So, why isn't she in the 'other "BC" ferries' Board? Easy answer: No, we will leave her in the "in their wake" section. Why? because, although there will be technicalities that seemingly qualify a ship for a few different categories, we are trying to be consistent with some broad concepts. She's retired as a ferry, not being used as a ferry, and so that's where she is. As I found out when doing my reorganization work last weekend, there are lots of possibilities for minor technicalities, but it's best just to go with broad concepts. There will always be people who it doesn't make sense to, but that's ok.
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Post by Mill Bay on Nov 17, 2009 17:18:21 GMT -8
Even ocean vessels have to be designed to run across currents, currents are practically everywhere you would want to take a ship. The Saltspring Queen, Vesuvius Queen, Klitsa, Klatawa, Kulleet and even the Susy-Q were all vessels that operated interchangeablly in ocean, lake and river settings and never had any problems with stability.
I'm wondering if it might not have been another case of intrigue, or design by committee (maybe she was the fast-cat of her day), and that someone insisted on extra modifications being made to the design which proved to be detrimental overall.
I'm also curious where the design actually came from out of Quebec and whether any other ship had been built to the same specs and showed the same problems, or if BCFerries may have used an untested design and not realized it had a flaw in it.
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Post by Retrovision on Nov 17, 2009 17:26:09 GMT -8
Even ocean vessels have to be designed to run across currents, currents are practically everywhere you would want to take a ship. The Saltspring Queen, Vesuvius Queen, Klitsa, Klatawa, Kulleet and even the Susy-Q were all vessels that operated interchangeablly in ocean, lake and river settings and never had any problems with stability. I meant that if she was designed to travel exclusively on a river, perpendicular to the current, then the design specs might not have kept any other conditions in mind. But of course we have to assume that those responsible for bringing her design over here to operate under our conditions would have done their due diligence to that effect; then again she could indeed have been the PacCat of her day, after all backroom deals are seemingly more and more prevalent the further back in time you go, atleast that we think we know of compared to today.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 18, 2009 20:15:31 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 20, 2009 21:01:26 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Nov 20, 2009 23:02:32 GMT -8
So the latest sighting of Queen of The Islands is on the North Vancouver shore. She sure gets around. With her trips up and down the coast when owned by St John Fishing Lodge, to all the different moorages she's had around the Vancouver area, I think that if there was an all time record for 'Most mileage in B.C. waters by a ferry without a functioning engine', she'd be the hands down winner.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 21, 2009 10:14:19 GMT -8
I think that if there was an all time record for 'Most mileage in B.C. waters by a ferry without a functioning engine', she'd be the hands down winner. ....with the Smokwa as a distant 2nd-place. Back and forth between Bowen & Horseshoe Bay isn't much, but it does add up. But not enough to beat the QotI.
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Dec 24, 2009 21:55:46 GMT -8
I took the Seabus today, and indeed spotted the Queen of the Islands. I was very excited!! Her funnel is now painted black (pun) as well, but you can still see distinct white lines that form a V at the front on the top. There's no sign of her name, so it makes me think it's probably been changed or not put back on. Also, I'd say maybe 500 feet away, there was a pair of lifeboats, on davits that looked very similar to the one's on the QOTI. One was of older style, and one was a new one, like on the NOREX. The older one in fact looked identical to her old one's I think. Any thoughts?
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Post by Ferryman on Dec 25, 2009 0:53:25 GMT -8
Also, I'd say maybe 500 feet away, there was a pair of lifeboats, on davits that looked very similar to the one's on the QOTI. One was of older style, and one was a new one, like on the NOREX. The older one in fact looked identical to her old one's I think. Any thoughts? Haha. That is part of the BCIT Marine training campus. I did some training on both of those lifeboats you mentioned. The old style open lifeboat is condemned for use in the water, but they still use it to practice for drills for preparing the boat up to the point where it would be lowered on to the water. The enclosed lifeboat is used on the last day of the Marine Emergency Duties Survival Craft course after practicing on the old boat. Except this one gets put in the water, and everyone takes turns driving it around the harbour, and doing Man overboard drills along the way. Great fun I had down there. Would love to do it again if I had the opportunity.
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Post by Kahloke on Feb 8, 2010 11:54:16 GMT -8
This is a pretty dark photo, but here's our old friend Queen of the Islands, a.k.a. St. John's Fishing Lodge, as seen from Lonsdale Quay last Saturday, Feb 6, 2010:
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Post by lmtengs on Feb 8, 2010 22:29:55 GMT -8
I have some photos of her that I took last thursday. I'll have to post them soon...
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