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Post by Ferryman on Jul 14, 2009 13:20:06 GMT -8
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2009 20:59:32 GMT -8
Excellent photo. Like the look of an unborn ship.
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Post by Starsteward on Aug 31, 2009 9:09:05 GMT -8
Anyone have a spare $2.25 Million kicking around?
Asking price for the Queen of Prince Rupert.
Don't know what they've been smoking at Head Office but that amount is at least twice what anyone should pony up for her, given the problems/genreral condition one would inherit.
There are some uses for her that are feasible but not at that price.
Any ideas folks??
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 1, 2009 16:02:10 GMT -8
The asbestos situation is a real costly problem.
I agree she doesn't owe BCF a dime, as the QPR has been a very reliable workhorse over the course of her career.
Also agree the Sidney would look very spiffy in her 60's look.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 1, 2009 18:32:30 GMT -8
Or she (the sidney) could be turned into a floating part of the BC Maritime Museum since she herself would be an exhibit. I wouldn't trust her as a FLOATING maritime museum anymore in her condition. I would do something similar to what the Vancouver maritime museum did to the St. Roch, but without a building around it, 'cuz it would BE the building. |
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Post by Balfour on Sept 2, 2009 8:02:04 GMT -8
Or she (the sidney) could be turned into a floating part of the BC Maritime Museum since she herself would be an exhibit. I wouldn't trust her as a FLOATING maritime museum anymore in her condition. I would do something similar to what the Vancouver maritime museum did to the St. Roch, but without a building around it, 'cuz it would BE the building. Hey! The QPR is in fine condition for her age! Luke, have you even been on the QPR? She may look rusty on the outside, but on the inside she was very well kept. I sailed on her back in March and even in the roughest seas, I felt very safe. |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 2, 2009 11:15:10 GMT -8
I wouldn't trust her as a FLOATING maritime museum anymore in her condition. I would do something similar to what the Vancouver maritime museum did to the St. Roch, but without a building around it, 'cuz it would BE the building. Hey! The QPR is in fine condition for her age! Luke, have you even been on the QPR? She may look rusty on the outside, but on the inside she was very well kept. I sailed on her back in March and even in the roughest seas, I felt very safe. No, no, I don't think you read right! I meant the Sidney  I should have clarified it more, I know. Srry. |
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 3, 2009 15:53:39 GMT -8
So glad to see your clarification on the QPR there Imtengs, as I too was on the QPR in March and although saddend to see her once beautiful dining room looking like a cheap five and dime store cafeteria, the overall condition of the ship was remarkable and well kept.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 3, 2009 16:21:30 GMT -8
So glad to see your clarification on the QPR there Imtengs, as I too was on the QPR in March and although saddend to see her once beautiful dining room looking like a cheap five and dime store cafeteria, the overall condition of the ship was remarkable and well kept. heh, heh. When I was checking out the Deas Facility today, the QPR looked pretty great, aside from a little bit of rust on the bow. |
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Post by princessofvanfan on Sept 5, 2009 11:33:45 GMT -8
I always thought the QPR would be ideal for Discovery Coast, much nicer than the Chilliwack. Any thoughts?
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Post by Mill Bay on Sept 5, 2009 11:59:55 GMT -8
I always thought the QPR would be ideal for Discovery Coast, much nicer than the Chilliwack. Any thoughts? The QPR would've been a pretty good fit for route 40, but she is not necessarily 'much nicer' than the Chilliwack. In the last year, at least, she was really starting to show her age and years of hard work. Maybe if she had had a really comprehensive interior refit she might have been a little more tourist friendly for that route. She basically did the whole route during the off-season, anyway, stopping at most of the ports up and down the inside passage. The really big thing is that she was getting quite old and worn out. She was not necessarily a mechanical nightmare, or anything. Newer ships than her have had worse luck, and those old Mirlees were still rumbling away, but in a lot of ways, she was technically outdated, and Transport Canada just really doesn't like having those older ships around with their more open hull design and older style evacuation equipment. Even the Chilliwack is apparently running on borrowed time now as well, so it's not really a question of which ship would have been a better fit for the route, because a strong argument could be made against both of them. |
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Post by princessofvanfan on Sept 5, 2009 23:56:13 GMT -8
Yeah, it's just that the QPR is a much nicer looking ship than the 'wack, which to me looks like nothing more than a motorized barge. Imagine how much more impressed tourists would be at seeing a nice looking ferry like the QPR pulling into the terminal, rather than the ugly, non descript 'wack.
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 6, 2009 1:45:11 GMT -8
Just as we humans start getting a little tattered looking as we get older, the simple process of aging and alterations done to the QPR over the years has led to a general "unsplendoring" of a once very nice looking vessel, both inside and out. Some of the renovations/alterations that have been done over the course of time, were supposed to offer more conveniences to passengers on all the QPR's Northern runs, but sadly in March 2009 the QPR looked like a ransacked shell of a ship, the likes of which are usually found in the Middle and Far East and resemble cattle boats. Another reality the QPR had to face in her waning years was knowledge that she would be replaced by a spiffy new ship and consequently maintenance and upkeep dollars, Great Scott forbid!, any new money for improvements at her age would be forthcomming. All that said however, I do agree with 'princessofvanfan' that the QPR is a much better looking ship that the 'Wack', in my opinion, the Queen of Chilliwack doesn't merit mention in the same sentence as the Queen of Prince Rupert! The "Wack" is beyond ugly! and that we actually use a second hand barge like that to promote tourism in one of the most beautiful areas of British Columbia if not the entire country is disgraceful! (Sorry to all you 'Wack' fans out there who just can't help liking the ugly duckling of the fleet) With an illogical amount of money needed to be spent on bringing the QPR up to current Transport Canada specifications I fear the outlook for any passenger related service in Canada is very remote. However, if this were a perfect world and teems of money abounded, I'd rebuild and refurbish the QPR as a nifty coastal cruiser and excursion vessel but the world isn't perfect and so back to sleep I go.....and try to continue my dream |
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Post by Mill Bay on Sept 6, 2009 7:40:01 GMT -8
Another reality the QPR had to face in her waning years was knowledge that she would be replaced by a spiffy new ship and consequently maintenance and upkeep dollars, Great Scott forbid!, any new money for improvements at her age would be forthcomming. On the other hand... I always marvel at the condition of the Coho and how bright and shiny she still is kept. Somehow Blackball, a much smaller company, can find the money to keep the ship clean and polished. All those little dollars that could have kept the QPR looking nice on the inside probably went instead to making corner offices somewhere look nice instead. |
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 6, 2009 11:35:49 GMT -8
Very great example of 'nailing it' by Mill Bay as he reports how Blackball has maintained the MV Coho by spending the necessary dollars on-going to to able to present the ship in the marvelous form it is today.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 6, 2009 18:41:45 GMT -8
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Post by Quatchi on Sept 6, 2009 21:56:37 GMT -8
The "Wack" is beyond ugly! and that we actually use a second hand barge like that to promote tourism in one of the most beautiful areas of British Columbia if not the entire country is disgraceful! (Sorry to all you 'Wack' fans out there who just can't help liking the ugly duckling of the fleet) I know I am biased a bit, but... I don't see why the Chilliwack is so hated, she is a good ship. I think she looks much better than quite a few of the ships in the fleet. She may be a little old, rusty and worn, but i think her design isn't that bad considering the overall design concept. She is a double ended vessel, of course she doesn't have a pointy bow, but what is better than the view you get from he forward deck. I can guarantee that any new vessel built will not have forward viewing at all. She serves a purpose, and she does it uniquely. I think that half the fun of the Discovery coast is that she is a one of a kind vessel on a one of a kind route. She meanders through the most beautiful part of the coast. I think she would benefit greatly from a pair of stabilizers in Queen Charlotte Sound, but this late in the game that's a waste of time and money. Is there anything wrong with a ship that is different coming into the terminal. Cheers, |
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 6, 2009 22:00:22 GMT -8
The "Wack" is beyond ugly! and that we actually use a second hand barge like that to promote tourism in one of the most beautiful areas of British Columbia if not the entire country is disgraceful! (Sorry to all you 'Wack' fans out there who just can't help liking the ugly duckling of the fleet) I know I am biased a bit, but... I don't see why the Chilliwack is so hated, she is a good ship. I think she looks much better than quite a few of the ships in the fleet. She may be a little old, rusty and worn, but i think her design isn't that bad considering the overall design concept. She is a double ended vessel, of course she doesn't have a pointy bow, but what is better than the view you get from he forward deck. I can guarantee that any new vessel built will not have forward viewing at all. She serves a purpose, and she does it uniquely. I think that half the fun of the Discovery coast is that she is a one of a kind vessel on a one of a kind route. She meanders through the most beautiful part of the coast. I think she would benefit greatly from a pair of stabilizers in Queen Charlotte Sound, but this late in the game that's a waste of time and money. Is there anything wrong with a ship that is different coming into the terminal. Cheers, **applause and cheering** |
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Post by Mirrlees on Sept 6, 2009 22:02:18 GMT -8
Wonderful photos Luke! Thanks for sharing |
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Post by Queen of Nanaimo Teen on Sept 6, 2009 23:19:00 GMT -8
Yes, absolutely awesome photos!!! She sure looks purdy in the Dogwood gown ;D
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2009 6:21:56 GMT -8
Some of the best photo's of the QPR I have seen. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Balfour on Sept 7, 2009 10:52:25 GMT -8
Awesome Photos Luke! Thanks for posting those!
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Post by QSaanich on Sept 7, 2009 11:31:14 GMT -8
Nice pics.
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Post by FNS on Sept 7, 2009 13:42:25 GMT -8
I agree.
And, a ship like this one looks better with little or no rust at all!
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 7, 2009 16:01:47 GMT -8
if anyone wants full size pics of them, just mention it, and i'll upload them to my flickr page and provide a link.
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