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Post by Low Light Mike on May 12, 2009 4:13:37 GMT -8
Listen up Fluge... As a moderator I would like you to move this here thread out of the 'retired' vessels section to some where more appropriate (BC 'ferries', perhaps), and you should start planning a trip. That's a good joke, but it's not April 1st. Sorry. ;D .....we all know that the Lady Rose is very much out of service, no matter what the website might indicate. I wonder when they will ever update their website to indicate that the old ship is no longer running, and hasn't for some time. And depending on what that advert in the TC paper said, it would be misleading advertising if the advert indicates that the Lady Rose ship is still running. I think they need to be more clear that "Lady Rose" is now the name of the company, not the ship that they operate. ------------- As a moderator, I'd like you to move the blue thread to the red spindle.....
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 4, 2009 20:32:53 GMT -8
Here are some pictures of the Lady Rose, from July 4, 2009 at the Alberni Quay. The interior pictures are taken through the windows, but I really wanted to see what was there inside... ================ The lower aft lounge: Builders plaque, on the outside front of the wheel-house: We were so close to the ship when we were on the Frances Barkley (moored right beside the Lady Rose), so here's a close up: Getting a better side-angle, once the 'Barkley is leaving/approaching the wharf: End on shot:
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 29, 2009 11:44:47 GMT -8
Photos from November 29, 2009: Taken from end of Alberni Quay: Taken from near the train station. Wheel-house peek-a-boo: I finally got some shots of her port-bow, taken from the public marina: (the other red-funnel belongs to MV Frances Barkley)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 29, 2010 15:52:55 GMT -8
News flash ! from here: (includes a photo) www.westcoaster.ca/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=7529----------- This is great news for me. I visit Tofino a couple times per year, and Mr. Bray is a long-time Tofino businessman. Next time I am there is early April 2010, but that's likely too early to visit the restaurant.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jan 29, 2010 20:35:53 GMT -8
News flash ! from here: (includes a photo) www.westcoaster.ca/modules/AMS/article.php?storyid=7528----------- This is great news for me. I visit Tofino a couple times per year, and Mr. Bray is a long-time Tofino businessman. Next time I am there is early April 2010, but that's likely too early to visit the restaurant. I am sure you will let me know when you are there like you usually do to rub salt in my wounds. I think this is great news. I wish more of the old gals that worked the coast could have found homes like this.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 29, 2010 20:36:16 GMT -8
I am not booked on the Frances Barkley to chase the Lady Rose.
But I would consider driving to Radar Hill near Tofino to get some photos of the Lady Rose, when she does finally take that final voyage.
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Post by Scott on Jan 29, 2010 21:22:58 GMT -8
That's awesome news. Hopefully it will be a success... it's hard to imagine it making a huge profit with its small size, but it sounds like it's part of a bigger business so it may work out. It's really nice to see one of the old steamships still having a future here.
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Post by Neil on Jan 29, 2010 22:44:19 GMT -8
But I would consider driving to Radar Hill near Tofino to get some photos of the Lady Rose, when she does finally take that final voyage. You've had some good results with that camera of yours, but I'm afraid that from Radar Hill, a vessel the size of the ' Rose would be not much more than a speck. And a blurry one, at that. I really hope this comes to fruition. Too bad Port Alberni couldn't see their way clear to buy her, but times have been so bad there, I guess there was no money. I would imagine she would be towed to Tofino, after not operating the last two years, unless they've been keeping her in running order. This will be a great addition to Tofino's waterfront. Tofino's one of my favorite places, despite the fact that I barely recognize it from when we first went there back in the mid '70s. It's touristy, but in a way that doesn't bother me, sort of like Ganges, and it has such a gorgeous setting. So maybe, after all these years and so many lost ships, one will finally be preserved, for the most part. Let's hope.
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Post by lmtengs on Jan 29, 2010 22:47:03 GMT -8
So maybe, after all these years and so many lost ships, one will finally be preserved, for the most part. Let's hope. Let's just hope the 'Rose doesn't get blessed the way the 'Sidney did. From what I remember, she was to become a floating restaurant too. Everybody cross your fingers, and let's wish good luck to the lovely Lady Rose! I'll be up in Tofino this July, as I'm departing on a trip on the Pacific Swift from around that area for a ten-day trip around that time. I'll try to find Rosy and shoot some snaps. If it's open by then, I'll try to get some interior shots to see how she's been refurbished.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jan 30, 2010 10:17:35 GMT -8
I am not booked on the Frances Barkley to chase the Lady Rose. But I would consider driving to Radar Hill near Tofino to get some photos of the Lady Rose, when she does finally take that final voyage. I am going to speak to my cousin, Flug. I will get him to set up a Rose chase so you can document every step of this historic journey. Very convenient because he often keeps his boat in Port Alberni. And when you aren't documenting, you two can debate bean counting issues and spreadsheet controversies. You two can split the cost of a GPS so we can track you live every step of the way. Besides set the crab and prawn traps as you go out, trawl for Salmon, and you can have a feast as a bonus.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 30, 2010 10:44:32 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 30, 2010 12:14:26 GMT -8
The "ambiguity hunter" in me wonders whether the Port Alberni company that owns & operates the MV Frances Barkley will be changing its name from "Lady Rose Marine Services" to something different.
Once this Port Alberni company's namesake ship becomes an attraction for a Tofino company, you'd think that there would be tourist confusion if the Port Alberni company remained named "Lady Rose".
I'm assuming that Jamie's Whaling Station will be marketing and branding their future floating restaurant as the "Lady Rose". That name is gold for coastal nostalgia.
But I think it will cause some confusion.
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Post by jamieswhalingstn on Feb 17, 2010 12:54:38 GMT -8
Hello Lady Rose enthusiasts. We hope that what we do with the vessel will meet with everyones approval! Our intention is to keep the ship in as pristine form as possible, AND in operational, running condition, NO MATTER WHAT. A ship is bound for the scrapyard if it doesn't run, and we certainly don't want that to happen! The Lady Rose will come to Tofino under it's own power and will make it's runs to the shipyards for refits UNDER it's own power as long as we can keep it going! She is in fine form now and is fired up and operated on a regular basis. We have a great relationship with 'Lady Rose Marine' and don't expect any problems, as we will be able to drive business back and forth this way. I have to thank Mike at Lady Rose Marine for his great cooperation in this project, without which, this whole thing would not be possible. I have some interior shots for those looking for them and will get some up as soon as someone can tell me how to upload them to this site! In the mean time, we will try to keep everyone informed of our progress. If anyone has any suggestions, history, stories, old photos or anything, we welcome them!
Although the ship will be in Tofino under the ownership of Jamie's Whaling Station, we recognize it is a special part of BC's Marine Heritage, and we are just custodians and hope all British Coumbians will be proud of her for years to come.
By the way, when I told my 90 year old Mom about the purchase, she related a very funny story of a trip that she, my Grandmother and Great Grandmother had on the 'Rose' in a bad storm, when the dishes hit the fiddle rails on the tables and got launched across the dining room! Must have been fun for all on board.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 17, 2010 13:03:33 GMT -8
I have some interior shots for those looking for them and will get some up as soon as someone can tell me how to upload them to this site! I will send you an email regarding photo procedures.
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Post by jamieswhalingstn on Feb 18, 2010 17:46:24 GMT -8
here is the binnacle
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 18, 2010 19:20:28 GMT -8
I had the pleasure of visiting Jamie's Whaling Station today, and meeting Jamie and some of his team.
It looks like the Lady Rose will be in great hands.
ps: I typed the caption for the 'Rose wheel-house picture post by Jamie, so if I messed up on the terminology, blame me !
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.....and Jamie confirmed that the ship hull and cabin on Strawberry Island really is NorVan #1.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 28, 2010 8:21:02 GMT -8
From a new thread, that I've moved here: Hi all from Scotland
I just found out about this forum so good to be here.
I am looking for an update on the Lady Rose - did she sail in 2010 and has she been withdrawn from service?
If so, what has happened to the last of the Union boats?
Thanks for any info
Best wishes to all in BC
Colin
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Post by Low Light Mike on Feb 28, 2010 8:23:41 GMT -8
Hi Colin:
You'll read in this here thread that the Lady Rose hasn't sailed at all for a few years now.
She has been sold, and will hopefully become a floating restaurant attraction in Tofino BC.
The company called "Lady Rose Marine Services" will still be running the Frances Barkley ship. Lady Rose Marine Services hasn't actually used the Lady Rose ship since maybe 2005 (give or take a few years).
In the commercial sense of the word, the MV Lady Rose is very much a retired ship. Even though she might still be able to run mechanically, her freight and passenger service days are over.
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Post by scotpix on Feb 28, 2010 10:03:28 GMT -8
Thanks for the info. Good to know that she is to continue operating in some capacity in BC.
About 12 years ago I found out about her during some research which I was undertaking into Clyde built ships which were still operational and in 1998 we made a three week trip to BC and Vancouver Island with a day aboard the "Rose" as one of the highlights of our itinerary. We were not disappointed - the whole experience was fantastic. The ship was a beauty and the crew made us very welcome, whilst the trip itself out to Bamfield was one of the best days sailing I have experienced anywhere.
The ship is a fine example of the design and construction style found at the A&J Inglis shipyard in Glasgow which closed in 1962. Nine years after the Lady Rose, they built the paddle steamer Waverley and then in 1953 the paddler Maid of the Loch, both of which are still in existence in Scotland. Aspects of the design of the Rose can be seen in both ships and in the paddler Talisman (1935 - 1967) so she is something of a little piece of living history of that shipyard. The story of the ships' journey to BC and her career in Canada is a bit of an epic and one which I wrote about for Ships Monthly a few years ago.
So its sad that she can no longer sail, thanks to those regulations but I am delighted that she is to continue in some capacity in Tofino.
Once again, thanks for the info.
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Post by Neil on Mar 5, 2010 19:57:23 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 6, 2010 21:00:25 GMT -8
Here are photos taken at Port Alberni on March 6, 2010: Here are some morning shots: This is taken from low-to-the-wharf. I've shown it in 2 forms: - a bit lightened, and a whole-lot-lightened. I wanted to see the fine detail and the anchor-pocket, so I lightened the 2nd version a lot. Image of the word-mark from the zodiac of her former "colleague-ship" is reflected in her lower-lounge window: Photo taken from MV Frances Barkley: From the departing MV Frances Barkley, we get a quick glimpse of her forward port-side: And here's a glimpse of her likely future temporary home. The ways at the shipyard at Port Alberni. Next door to Lady Rose Marine. And speaking of "Lady Rose" as a brand name, now they are making a line of wheel-barrows. ;D ================= .....and upon my return to Port Alberni from Bamfield (on the MV Frances Barkley), the MV Lady Rose is in perfect afternoon sun, ready for some more photos. (despite the perfect sun lighting, I still lightened up the pictures a bit more in Picasa, because I wanted to see more of the shaded detail. Covered stern-deck area. Notice that the wooden benches have been removed. Nice angles from the 'Barkley as she pulls into her home at Alberni Quay. 2 beautiful sights: MV Lady Rose and Mt. Arrowsmith. Super on a sunny day.
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Post by scotpix on Mar 12, 2010 1:02:46 GMT -8
Great shots thanks
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Post by shipyard on Mar 12, 2010 21:29:06 GMT -8
No, she definitely won't be going up on those ways!! Actually, there isn't anywhere in 'Alberni with the capacity to haul her out. The below-waterline work will likely be done in Victoria, as has been the case with both ships for many years, while the bulk of the conversion will probably be handled by the very capable Port Alberni yards.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 13, 2010 7:25:30 GMT -8
No, she definitely won't be going up on those ways!! Actually, there isn't anywhere in 'Alberni with the capacity to haul her out. The below-waterline work will likely be done in Victoria, as has been the case with both ships for many years, while the bulk of the conversion will probably be handled by the very capable Port Alberni yards. Where are the "very capable Port Alberni yards"? Are they part of the site where I photographed those ways, or are they somewhere else? Please enlighten, as I thought that those ways were the Port Alberni yards.... So are the ways that I photographed just for smaller pleasure boats?
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Post by shipyard on Mar 14, 2010 17:14:44 GMT -8
The ways you photographed are owned by Pacific Towing, used for maintaining the smaller tugs in their fleet. Insurance issues stopped them from bringing in other work onto them a few years ago. Past them, there is Alberni Engineering, who have a few sets of ways, but none of them with the lifting capacity for a ship of that size. They do much of the commercial refit work in the valley. There is also Kamma & Blake, while not having haul-out capabilities, can handle most dock-side work for a project like that.
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