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Post by hwy19man on Sept 5, 2016 16:21:34 GMT -8
There are two waits on route 1 from SWB.
Route 2 had two waits and the 2130h is filling up quickly. I wonder if the Cowichan will do a 2105h sailing?
Route 1 is showing hourly sailings to 2200h from TSA, but, from SWB until 2100h? The NW is doing a 2000h trip.
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Post by John H on Sept 5, 2016 19:31:29 GMT -8
There are two waits on route 1 from SWB.
Route 2 had two waits and the 2130h is filling up quickly. I wonder if the Cowichan will do a 2105h sailing?
Route 1 is showing hourly sailings to 2200h from TSA, but, from SWB until 2100h? The NW is doing a 2000h trip. Not sure when it filled up, but it's 2030h now and the 2130h on Route 2 from Departure Bay is full. Looks like that's it for the night. The 2245h from Duke Point is 77% full. Looks like Route 1 has calmed down.
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Post by Dane on Sept 5, 2016 19:48:34 GMT -8
Lots of evening travelers today. Regardless, 850pm when I'm posting this and everything has got space for the last sailings and no waits other than the usual SGI "full for the day."
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Post by Dane on Sept 11, 2016 17:53:17 GMT -8
640pm, Swartz Bay -> Tsawwassen sold out. There's a seven and nine on left, with the Renaissance subbing for the SoBC today. Curious to see if the Celebrationw high had a six from Tsawwassen will do another round trip?
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Post by hwy19man on Sept 11, 2016 18:13:25 GMT -8
The Celebration will be doing a 2000h/2200h round trip.
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Post by hwy19man on Sept 11, 2016 19:16:58 GMT -8
Route 3 is full now. Doing one extra trip is not enough just one week after the summer schedule ended.
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Post by hwy19man on Sept 12, 2016 19:36:08 GMT -8
The Surrey is approximately one hour behind schedule. Route 3 commuters must be upset as the Surrey is sailing on its summer schedule.
Route 1 has been especially for overheights as it is full for the 2100h sailing. Underheights are okay, expect route 30 to fill up.
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Post by Neil on Sept 19, 2016 11:48:30 GMT -8
Another example of how schedules are cut back too much, too early; vehicles arriving at Swartz Bay now (12:47) will be on the 5:00 sailing to Tsawwassen. Terrible service on BC Ferries' busiest route.
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Post by John H on Sept 19, 2016 14:57:04 GMT -8
Another example of how schedules are cut back too much, too early; vehicles arriving at Swartz Bay now (12:47) will be on the 5:00 sailing to Tsawwassen. Terrible service on BC Ferries' busiest route. Looks like they added another round trip in the last hour with the COASTAL CELEBRATION doing a 4:00 from Swartz Bay and a 6:00 from Tsawwassen. At 2:30 today the 7:00 sailing was almost sold out, but now (3:57) it's just 50% full with the extra sailing added.
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Post by Starsteward on Sept 20, 2016 9:54:51 GMT -8
It is interesting to note that BC Ferries and Translink appear to have somewhat similar problems in having lost revenues due to low ridership, whilst both entities with their bloated management models 'boo-hoo' for more public or government funding. Being pre-occupied searching for sob-towels, they fail to notice that through no positive measures on their behalf, ridership on ferries, busses skytrains etc. has been growing faster than can be serviced in a timely manner. Translink is considering pulling busses out of the 'retired' fleet to meet some of the increased demand. BC Ferries is scrambling to meet service demands while awaiting the arrival of the three new Salish class ships. Perhaps BC Ferries should hold off on casting the two oldest remaining 'Queens' to the scrapyard until they're positive that the new ships are suitable, and dependable and they can meet the demands that will ensue with the new Inter-Gulf Islands schedule.
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Post by Dane on Sept 20, 2016 17:47:44 GMT -8
It is interesting to note that BC Ferries and Translink appear to have somewhat similar problems in having lost revenues due to low ridership, whilst both entities with their bloated management models 'boo-hoo' for more public or government funding. Being pre-occupied searching for sob-towels, they fail to notice that through no positive measures on their behalf, ridership on ferries, busses skytrains etc. has been growing faster than can be serviced in a timely manner. Translink is considering pulling busses out of the 'retired' fleet to meet some of the increased demand. BC Ferries is scrambling to meet service demands while awaiting the arrival of the three new Salish class ships. Perhaps BC Ferries should hold off on casting the two oldest remaining 'Queens' to the scrapyard until they're positive that the new ships are suitable, and dependable and they can meet the demands that will ensue with the new Inter-Gulf Islands schedule. Translink is generally operating overcapacity; not struggling with low ridership as you've posted in the first paragraph (but contradict in the second). Buses being potentially returned to service are due to the Federal Infastructure / Transit funding. Translink also has among the best revenue from ridership returns in North America (which I actually don't like, it's why fares are so high). BC Ferries has somewhat recently pulled a ship back into service - I use the word recently quite liberally - but the Queen of Eaquimalt did a few post intended-retirement trips on Route 2. The Queen of Burnaby, all evidence suggests, is being held together be duct tape and hope. Seems hard to imagine it staying around longer, and if I'm not mistaken all its substantial certificates are about to expire. I am not sure what the case is with the Nanaimo, though?
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Post by Neil on Sept 20, 2016 20:25:35 GMT -8
It is interesting to note that BC Ferries and Translink appear to have somewhat similar problems in having lost revenues due to low ridership, whilst both entities with their bloated management models 'boo-hoo' for more public or government funding. Being pre-occupied searching for sob-towels, they fail to notice that through no positive measures on their behalf, ridership on ferries, busses skytrains etc. has been growing faster than can be serviced in a timely manner. Translink is considering pulling busses out of the 'retired' fleet to meet some of the increased demand. BC Ferries is scrambling to meet service demands while awaiting the arrival of the three new Salish class ships. Perhaps BC Ferries should hold off on casting the two oldest remaining 'Queens' to the scrapyard until they're positive that the new ships are suitable, and dependable and they can meet the demands that will ensue with the new Inter-Gulf Islands schedule. Translink is generally operating overcapacity; not struggling with low ridership as you've posted in the first paragraph (but contradict in the second). Buses being potentially returned to service are due to the Federal Infastructure / Transit funding. Translink also has among the best revenue from ridership returns in North America (which I actually don't like, it's why fares are so high). BC Ferries has somewhat recently pulled a ship back into service - I use the word recently quite liberally - but the Queen of Eaquimalt did a few post intended-retirement trips on Route 2. The Queen of Burnaby, all evidence suggests, is being held together be duct tape and hope. Seems hard to imagine it staying around longer, and if I'm not mistaken all its substantial certificates are about to expire. I am not sure what the case is with the Nanaimo, though? Both the 'Nanaimo's and the 'Burnaby's TC certs are good to October of 2019.
Dane, do you have the figures for farebox recovery from the transit system? 40% sounds familiar, but I'm not sure if that was metro Vancouver, or province wide.
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Post by roeco on Sept 20, 2016 20:36:43 GMT -8
Another example of how schedules are cut back too much, too early; vehicles arriving at Swartz Bay now (12:47) will be on the 5:00 sailing to Tsawwassen. Terrible service on BC Ferries' busiest route. Looks like they added another round trip in the last hour with the COASTAL CELEBRATION doing a 4:00 from Swartz Bay and a 6:00 from Tsawwassen. At 2:30 today the 7:00 sailing was almost sold out, but now (3:57) it's just 50% full with the extra sailing added. Why would they not be on the 3pm sailing....The Swartz Bay to Tsawassen reg schedule is every 2 hours from 7 Am to 9 Pm from each terminal...or did something recently change?? Their is also quite often extra sailings especially long weekends and Fri/Sun for sure on that route.
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Post by Nick on Sept 20, 2016 20:55:40 GMT -8
Looks like they added another round trip in the last hour with the COASTAL CELEBRATION doing a 4:00 from Swartz Bay and a 6:00 from Tsawwassen. At 2:30 today the 7:00 sailing was almost sold out, but now (3:57) it's just 50% full with the extra sailing added. Why would they not be on the 3pm sailing....The Swartz Bay to Tsawassen reg schedule is every 2 hours from 7 Am to 9 Pm from each terminal...or did something recently change?? Their is also quite often extra sailings especially long weekends and Fri/Sun for sure on that route. As of Neil's first post at 12:48, the 1300 and 1500 sailings were full, so vehicles arriving would be put on the 1700. As of 1450, they were selling tickets for the 2100. It was shortly after then that management made the decision to sail the Celebration on an unscheduled, overtime round trip.
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Post by hwy19man on Sept 25, 2016 19:39:35 GMT -8
Another example of how schedules are cut back too much, too early; vehicles arriving at Swartz Bay now (12:47) will be on the 5:00 sailing to Tsawwassen. Terrible service on BC Ferries' busiest route. The same goes for routes 2 and 3. This is the third consecutive Sunday that the 2130h from Dep. Bay and 2045h from Langdale are sold out!
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 6, 2016 20:47:06 GMT -8
Route 1 has been busy this Thursday afternoon with 1-2 waits in both directions and the 2100h sailing from TSA is sold out. There was no 2000h or 2200h sailing! On route 30, the Inspiration has had its final round trip cancelled and the Alberni has been delayed. Route 2 had the 2130h sailing from HSB near 80% capacity and overheights were full. From Dep. Bay it was 50% full. Route 3 was over thirty minutes behind schedule.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 7, 2016 18:42:15 GMT -8
Friday of the Thanksgiving Day long weekend and it looks like busy summer weekend.
Route 1 has added a 2000h/2200h round trip for the NW. The 2000h from TSA is full and the 2100h is already at 65% capacity. It was busy at SWB up until the 1900h sailing and is quiet now.
Route 30 from TSA has been full all day and the 2245h is at 80% capacity with overheights at 90%.
Route 2 had the Cowichan do two round trips. The 1930h from HSB is at 82% capacity.
Route 3, the Cowichan did not do a round trip! The 2145h sailing is currently at 61% capacity and the Surrey is once again running thirty minutes behind schedule.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 7, 2016 21:25:16 GMT -8
Route 3's final sailing at 2145h (2220h officially) from HSB is full. BCF seriously missed the boat by not having the Cowichan do a round trip on this route.
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Post by Mayne on Oct 7, 2016 21:45:05 GMT -8
Route 3's final sailing at 2145h (2220h officially) from HSB is full. BCF seriously missed the boat by not having the Cowichan do a round trip on this route. WOW! Not knowing the crewing situation and true loads they suck so bad! Thanks for the play by play that would be so hard to figure out.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 8, 2016 12:05:20 GMT -8
Route 3's final sailing at 2145h (2220h officially) from HSB is full. BCF seriously missed the boat by not having the Cowichan do a round trip on this route. WOW! Not knowing the crewing situation and true loads they suck so bad! Thanks for the play by play that would be so hard to figure out. Looking back, route 3 has had an extra round trip on the Friday of the Thanksgiving long weekend. The same goes for Saturday and this year (today), there was no additional trip despite two waits at HSB.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 10, 2016 18:47:38 GMT -8
Some radio stations today were saying that route 1 had hourly sailings until 2200h which is incorrect.
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Good on BCF for putting on an extra round trip for route 3 being busy this evening. The extra trip at 2135h is now at 60% capacity and it filled up!
Route 2 from Dep. Bay has had one wait all day and the 2130h sailing has filled up 70% capacity.
Route 1 has had 2-3 waits on both sides earlier in the day. The Celebration will do the 2000h/2200h trip tonight. From SWB, the 2000h is full and the 2100h is at 65% capacity. From TSA, the 2100h has filled up and the 2200h is only at 32% capacity.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 14, 2016 18:34:00 GMT -8
It will be a late night on the three Georgia Strait crossings. All those routes have the vessels 2 to 2.5 hours behind schedule. This means vessels are leaving their home ports when the visiting vessel should be there. Final trips will be around 2300h for routes 1 and 2. Route 30 could have trips at 0045h.
The Celebration's second round trip on route 1 has been cancelled.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 21, 2016 17:17:33 GMT -8
It is busy for a mid October weekend. Route 1 has two waits from TSA and the 2100h is already at 60% capacity. From SWB, the 1900h is full.
From HSB, route 3 has two waits and is running 30-40 minutes behind schedule. Route 2 has one wait and both vessels are also running behind schedule.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 21, 2016 19:47:04 GMT -8
Route 1, the 2100h from TSA filled up at 2015h. Late night travelling for those lining up for the 2245h to Duke Point. From SWB, it is 62% full. It is rare at this time of year for a Friday evening to be this busy.
From HSB, route 2 is at 66% capacity and route 3 is at 51% capacity.
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Post by arrrrmatey on Nov 10, 2016 23:17:23 GMT -8
The capilano is currently doing a trip to langdale... I saw it on bcf departures, it was listed for a 1030pm departure. I thought it was a mistake but marine traffic shows her almost there. Did the final sailing from HSB sell out and they chose the Cap to take the last few? Interesting choice. Ever seen this before?
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