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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 20, 2005 21:09:47 GMT -8
re Mac's writing style:
I agree that it's too absolute & for-sure. I like to phrase things like "in my opinion", or "I think that" or "to me it looks like...."
But Mac simply says "This ship will be scraped in 4-5 years.".
Mac leaves no room for discussion or error....and I find that arrogant, whether it's intended or not.
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Post by Doug on Sept 21, 2005 15:55:54 GMT -8
My thoughts exactly!
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Post by Mac Write on Sept 21, 2005 18:06:42 GMT -8
I learned it from this board and word. Also for years now the Nanny has been on the top of the list for replacement.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 21, 2005 19:16:59 GMT -8
mac wrong again it has been the tsawwassen cause she is older than the nanny otherwise that new vessel would be to replace the nanny
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Post by Doug on Sept 21, 2005 20:17:14 GMT -8
Ya Mac....  |
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Post by Mac Write on Sept 21, 2005 20:28:54 GMT -8
Just pass on what I hear from talking with crews etc.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 21, 2005 20:31:11 GMT -8
pass it on yourself we dont want to do your work
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 21, 2005 20:54:24 GMT -8
Mac, please read the earlier posts on this thread. It's not your facts we are disputing, but it's your manner of presenting them.
Read my earlier comment re "arrogant" posts.
It's all in the delivery.....
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 22, 2005 22:19:34 GMT -8
I learned it from this board and word. Also for years now the Nanny has been on the top of the list for replacement. If it is getting a "Passenger Accommodation Renovation", I assume that BCFS is planning on keeping the Nanaimo longer than what they originally planned. However, it sounds as if little or nothing is being done mechanically, so we will see how long she is running before she experiences mechanical problems... I wonder when will BCFS Management will learn that the mechanical components of a vessel are more important than new upholstery and LCD televisions... |
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Post by Balfour on Sept 22, 2005 22:32:24 GMT -8
Well said, Scott!
The Queen of Nanaimo hasn't had many mechanical problems in the past few years, they should do alot of preventative work to her. Also keep in mind that the Nanny's refit's in past years have been long so they might have been doing more upgrades and more preventative stuff to her then. I guess we'll see what happens when she returns.
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Post by Dane on Sept 22, 2005 22:32:39 GMT -8
The Naniamo and Burnaby are both slated for 10 years of additional service. Retiring in 2016 and 2017 respectivly. This is available on their business plans (I think, if it's not there check the Annual Report). Anyways I heard it come out of David Hahns mouth, and he's always right  Ha ha ha |
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 22, 2005 22:37:24 GMT -8
The Naniamo and Burnaby are both slated for 10 years of additional service. Retiring in 2016 and 2017 respectivly. This is available on their business plans (I think, if it's not there check the Annual Report). Anyways I heard it come out of David Hahns mouth, and he's always right Ha ha ha At the rate BCFS Management is allocating funds for "upgrades", they will be powered by Tugs before those dates come... Honestly, I would not be surprised if the Nanaimo comes out of its refurbishment with 24 carat gold bathroom fixtures... |
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Post by Dane on Sept 22, 2005 22:53:02 GMT -8
Ha ha but as the philosophy goes, people will buy more hamburgers because of those gold sinks Supposedly this rebuild is on a 2/3 1/3 allocation for funds, I just can't remember which one is mechanical and which one is interior. I'd guess interior is 2/3. |
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Post by ferryguy on Sept 23, 2005 10:11:57 GMT -8
The real purpose of this refit is a Company Union deal that will allow BCFS to lower crew but keep the ship on the run. The big ticket item will be the new life raft system which will be similar to the evac system on a plane compared to the chutes of other BCFS vessels.
Ferryguy
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Post by Mac Write on Sept 23, 2005 14:06:43 GMT -8
How many crew will they be able to reduce by (and will that piss off the union and other nasty things)?
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Post by YZFNick on Sept 23, 2005 16:36:26 GMT -8
Tsawwassen is going to be scraped within 2-4 years. Scrape in 2-4 years? There some barnicles on her underside? |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Sept 23, 2005 16:40:49 GMT -8
LOL yeah thanks alot mac for offering to do all that work to the old girl. LOL
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Post by ferryguy on Sept 23, 2005 16:54:17 GMT -8
It is a joint union management deal crew will be reduced by 4 - 6. This will allow Route 9 to continue to sail. Their was talk of scrapping it.
Ferryguy
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Sept 23, 2005 17:38:14 GMT -8
The big ticket item will be the new life raft system which will be similar to the evac system on a plane compared to the chutes of other BCFS vessels. Ferryguy I hope the new Viking M.E.C's function as they are designed, as their chances of them being used are inclined until BCFS starts to realize that there is more to a ship than just the passenger deck... While granted that it is a good idea to install a new evacuation system, there is no need for reupholstered seating, new carpeting, LCD televisions, etc... All of the engineers and crew do their best to keep the fleet running, but with all man-made equipment it will not last forever. If BCFS will spend more money on the Mechanical Equipment essential to the vessels operation, I think we would have fewer operational costs in the long run, safer ships and generally more happy customers... After all, an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.  |
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Post by Dane on Sept 23, 2005 22:16:56 GMT -8
What are the licenses on the Naniamo - how many crew to how many passengers? It seems like reduction of 4 to 6 crew is a lot.
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Post by ferryguy on Sept 24, 2005 7:39:36 GMT -8
Dont have those numbers on the tip of my tounge but a normal V class has a A License crew of 34 B 31 c 28 d 21 or so.
Ferryguy
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Post by Dane on Sept 24, 2005 17:08:17 GMT -8
Dont have those numbers on the tip of my tounge but a normal V class has a A License crew of 34 B 31 c 28 d 21 or so. Ferryguy Yeah those are in line with what I thought, I'm curious what license the Naniamo ussually operates on? I'd suspect they rarely are on A. |
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Post by ferryguy on Sept 24, 2005 17:43:56 GMT -8
Very rare. Usually C or D.
Ferryguy
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Post by kylefossett on Sept 26, 2005 16:07:59 GMT -8
the nanny is on an a most days of summer. the passenger capacity will be reduced but not as drastically as the burnaby
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 11, 2005 20:38:56 GMT -8
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Ha ha ha 