queen of naniamo mid life refit

[Koastal Karl]

www.pbase.com/kstapleton/image/50738602 look at this, another Nanny refit photo, more new photos in the album too of the Nanny refit!

[Starbucks Queen]

Very interestisng photos, it´s not so often you can actually see photos of ships in shipyards - usually it´s hard and prohibited to get in.

I did notice just one thing - if I didn´t notice it wrong: The Queen of Nanaimo seems to be a very flat-bottomed ship. I have seen photos of some European ferries in drydock and they seemed to have more draught than yours. Anyone can confirm ??

[Political Incorrectness]

chivapcici
The person who took these pics is actually a BCF employee like Engineer. They take pics of ships engines and when they are in drydock. If you wonder why I have this information we have someone on here who actually knows this person but he isnt a BCF employee but his parents are.

[Starbucks Queen]

OK that explains it - I still do wonder, isn´t the hull of the Nanaimo pretty "flat" - I assume the ship would be a horrible seakeeper and very prone to wind, as well.

[Political Incorrectness]

1960's vessel and had addition of an 84 foot mid section in the 70's

[Starbucks Queen]

Yes I have seen some very interesting photos of this - on the BC ferries website´s "history" part. I still do wonder, the ships do not have alot of drought - does this not make them prone to wind and waves
About the BCF- site: I have not seen many companies which do dedicate such a huge amount of websites to their own history so I really sat there, and spent a while to read all that and enjoyed the pics.

[Ferryman]

Well she's just like her sisters. The Queen of Newwestminster used to have the same hull, until it had another car deck installed back in 1991, and they made the hull bigger so it could handle the extra weight, and so it wouldn't flip over while it turned around into the dock or something. The Burnaby is the exact same below the water line though. But I don't know about the Queens of Victoria, Vancouver, Esquimalt, and Saanich with whether or not they had made their hull wider.
The C-Class have a bit of a deeper hull on them , here is the Queen of Oak Bay in that same drydock the Queen of Nanaimo was in..
www.pbase.com/kstapleton/image/43420312

[Starbucks Queen]

Thanks alot for your explanation I´m quite a bit wiser now about your ships. Yes and answered the question as well I had about hull-extensions together with cardeck-extensions. Now, courious as it seems they give the QONMO a completely new interior as well, how it will look afterwards. Whether it will be a nice interior or whether you´ll be wondering whether the rest of the ship is made of plastic too, while you are onboard

[Political Incorrectness]

It will be like the interior of the Queens, of Oak Bay, Cowichan, Coquitlam, and the Spirit of BC. That style but different layout due to the design of the v's.

[Alex]

chivapcici said:

Yes I have seen some very interesting photos of this - on the BC ferries website´s "history" part. I still do wonder, the ships do not have alot of drought - does this not make them prone to wind and waves

It probably does!

However, most of our ferries don't venture out into the "real" ocean. The Strait of Georgia is the closest they get, so except for really extreme weather conditions (that may only happen for a total of a few days or a week each year), they can usually operate fine.

[Starbucks Queen]

OK I understand so I think they can do a North Sea crossing but it´s just not so sure which side´s going to be up finally !
As what are they classified ? Not sea-going then I assume or ?

[Political Incorrectness]

alex when winds pick up the V's can not handle it so they have to cancel sailings by the V class vessels. That is why they need to be replaced so that other vessels that can handle it will not have to worry about weather as much also maintaining the vessel takes more than a new vessel.

[Ferryman]

When the Queen of Victoria left BC, they locked the bow doors so they couldn't swing open and let water in as it sailed to the Dominican Republic. But apparently it was a really rough trip from what I remember reading by someone who was on her while she was going down there. So we know the V-Class on the edge of the Pacific Ocean, and they're usually the ones that have a hard time in the wind aren't they?

[Ferryman]

Here's that story I was talking about with the Queen of Victoria...
www.ntcl.com/main/crossings.htm

[Political Incorrectness]

so she got extra length added? and went back up to BC? 8 days of partying and a drunk pilot? sheesh that is what you call crazy no wonder the BCF fleet has felt the craziness of the flagship of the fleet.

[Doug]

Chivapcici,

When you say draught, do you mean the real definition (depth) or the curvature of the ship's hull that you pointed out? I will give you the short explanation for both.

The ship seems shallow, as it is. When it comes to the "C" Class and "S" Class ships, however, they rank high upon European vessels' depths. 20 feet is about average I'd say.

Curvature...well, most ships nowadays are pretty boxy (very similar to the new European ferries). The Nanaimo was built in the mid-'60s, and does not look very boxy to me...so I assume you wanted the first definition of "draught".

Any BC Ferry can sail in Europe with slight modifications. Would it be more comfortable than a European vessel with stabilizers and a "nose" bow? Definitely not.... You also have to remember, not only are we blocked off from the open Pacific by Vancouver Island, but storms are a rare occurrence here, so the storms in Europe that require stabilizers are not evident in the Strait of Georgia. I believe the Nanaimo would be more seaworthy than the larger ferries due to having no upper car deck, and no open doors there. With modifications, adding doors to the upper car decks of our ferries, closing the open windows, and adding stabilizers, our ships could easily handle the European seas. You have to remember the Super "C" Class ferries are going to be crossing not only the open Atlantic Ocean, but also the Pacific via Panama Canal...and they don't have their upper car decks or windows sealed off. As for stabilizers, I am unsure. Also take into note that the first ship is going to be crossing in the winter, where the ocean is more fierce.

[Starbucks Queen]

Thanks for exaplaining - yes some of ours are pretty boxy and they do have a different shape of hull as well - and yes, a bit more boxy so to say.

[Alex]

ferrymaniac101 said:

alex when winds pick up the V's can not handle it so they have to cancel sailings by the V class vessels.

And how often does that happen? Not all that often, I would imagine.

[Ferryman]

ferrymaniac101 said:

so she got extra length added? and went back up to BC? 8 days of partying and a drunk pilot? sheesh that is what you call crazy no wonder the BCF fleet has felt the craziness of the flagship of the fleet.

No that part wasn't on the Victoria...The guy was on the Victoria until it was delivered to its new owners, and then he got on to the Mega Yaught to return to BC. Then thats when all of the rest of the events happened.