Super C Names

[Koastal Karl]

yeah, like where is the Oak Bay suppose to run to? Oak Bay, the Esquimalt to Esquimalt, the Saanich to Saanich, lol!

[Doug]

Seeing everyone whining about these names makes me sick! They are not something I would have thought up, and they aren't the GREATEST ones in the world, but if you look at private companies world-wide, they are very good.

Get over it....

[Koastal Karl]

yeah, actually Doug is right! Those are the new names so even though we dont like them or arent too fond of the names there is nothing we can do. They look like awesome ships and I will be definately looking forward to riding them.

[nolonger]

hornbyguy said:

This is probably just a prelude to Gordon Campbell selling the whole shebang off to Dennis Washington. After all, Seaspan already has a vessel named 'Coastal Spirit'...

True! it certainly as a WMG ring to it. Coastal Intermodal has a barge named Coastal Spirit.

[Low Light Mike]

Coastal Rainy-Sauce

Coastal Perspiration

Coastal Constipation


Wow, what strange names.

[Neil]

Three or four years from now, all the people who are so bent out of shape over the names will be enthusiastically posting their latest photos of the 'Renny', and planning a fan trip on the 'Celly'. Anyway, could any name be more absurd than 'Queen of Surrey'? What image of royalty does Whalley conjure up, other than maybe a hooker named Princess? You can get used to anything, and I'm sure we will.

[bcfcbccsscollector]

ferrymaniac101 said:

There is one simple word for those names, LAME!. Even the WSF names are better than those. What is BCF running, Carnival style by naming it after something like "Carnival Conquest". Ugh FENK! we are waiting for a reply!
(IMHO)

Have to say, that I saw the story on the news tonight and upon hearing the names for the first time, the first thing that went through my head was...CARNIVAL!!!

Using "Coastal" seems to be the way around the dual registration dilemma. Maybe Mr. Hahn worked for Carnival at one time and, maybe a few too many martinis with Kathi Lee.......

Some have posted in favor of the decision and that is entirely your right as you are entitled to it, but I think chastising others for theirs is not. We have to agree to disagree here, folks. I do not see these names as "Original", sorry. They are names already registered, with a slight add on. I'm also not saying keep the "Queen of" or "Spirit of", but lets get real and come up with something original, or more in keeping with BC, anything but a regurgitated version of a cruise line already in existence.

However, what's done is done and like it or lump it, they still look pretty good. Maybe we can get Kathi Lee to sing ad jingles for BC Ferries....

My 2 pennies worth........

[QSaanich]

I am pretty disappointed of the new names for the super c class i am speech less does this mean the end for all new ships in the fleet to start with spirit of or queen of ? (except for the spirit of hearty bay).

[Mike C]

I came up with Coastal Explorer and Coastal Discovery...

Since this is the Coastal Class, maybe I'll get some credit??

[Fenklebaum]

Cascade, if ever there were 'butch' ships, they came from the North Sea. *grins a manic and deliciously evil grin* Ah, la merde est foutée pour un autre fois! C'est une belle vie, ça!

The first draft of a letter to the supreme asshat himself:

Mr. David Hahn,
C.O. BC Ferry Services Inc.
Victoria B.C.

Sir,

No doubt you and/or your people made this morning's announcement regarding the naming of BC Ferries' future major vessels with the greatest enthusiasm. As I am sure your final selections are most likely a source of some pride for you, as well as your staff, I shall refrain from sharing with you some of the more colourful phrases that passed off my tongue when I first heard the final choices over the radio.

To put this simply, and to quote the so-quotable Mary Walsh: "Are you on glue?" I am thoroughly convinced that something must be amiss with your zombie-brunch if you think for one second that your customers are sufficiently stunned to not see through this brazen attempt at garnering 'family friendly' PR.

These new names are lacking Inspiration. The public can see this; you will note the lack of Celebration with which these new names have been greeted. And if you had even bothered to pay attention to our world's history, you would know that the Renaissance was a period of renewed interest in older notions, not an abandoning of them.

Mark Twain once said: "First God created idiots. That was for practice. Then he created politicians." After having observed this sickening display of the creatively-challenged beurocratic mentality in action today, I am convinced that you have transcended Twain's first level, and are now currently in possession of a black belt in stupidity.

I raise my glass to your (in the near) future memory.

Very sincerely yours,

Arnold Q. Fenklebaum

[Mike C]

Hear hear!!!

I agree totally!!

[Doug]

So the so-called "mature" Fenklebaum is blaming David Hahn directly for naming the ships...? It was a contest...and they stated clearly before the contest that "Queen of" or "Spirit of" was not going to be used anymore. What did you expect it to be, King of Vancouver II? That would be great, but it ain't going to happen. I didn't see anyone complaining that they used "Queen" in the '60s...but damn...just because it's private now they are at fault for everything that you don't like. Might as well sue them for getting fat too.

Change is healthy...it makes you live longer.

[Political Incorrectness]

Just what I was waiting for, a toast to you Fenklebaum! HMCS, prehaps you got some comedy on this?

[WettCoast]

Here is the text of BCFS news release re their choice on names:
For Immediate Release
06-028 May 11, 2006

BC FERRIES ANNOUNCES NAMES FOR THREE NEW SUPER C VESSELS

- Coastal Renaissance, Coastal Inspiration and Coastal Celebration -

VICTORIA – BC Ferries has selected Coastal Renaissance, Coastal Inspiration and
Coastal Celebration as the names for its three new Super C-class vessels that will begin
operating between Horseshoe Bay-Departure Bay and Swartz Bay-Tsawwassen early in 2008.

An advisory board comprised of local newspaper reporters and BC Ferries’ employees
selected the names after reviewing 7,602 entries submitted during the Name the Super Cs
contest that ran from October 18, 2005 through January 31, 2006.

The first Super C-class vessel, Coastal Renaissance, was selected to signify the renewal
of BC Ferries as an independent, commercial company. The second vessel, Coastal Inspiration,
was chosen to reflect the inspirational beauty of coastal British Columbia, which is also
captured in the interior design of the new vessels. Coastal Celebration, the third vessel name,
was chosen to reflect the anticipated celebration that BC Ferries and its customers will have
once all three of these new vessels have entered the fleet.

“These names represent the important role that BC Ferries plays in life on the coast,”
said BC Ferries’ Executive Vice President and Chief Operating Officer, Mike Corrigan. “The
names Coastal Renaissance, Coastal Inspiration and Coastal Celebration signify a new
beginning for BC Ferries as we embark on a long-term plan to revitalize our fleet.”

Before reviewing the entries, the advisory board reconfirmed the names should reflect
BC Ferries’ role as an independent company; appeal to employees and customers; signify the
geographic area the company operates in; be original, creative and memorable; and be respectful to the communities the vessels will serve.

After reviewing the submissions, the advisory board determined it was necessary to
combine elements from different entries to create names that would meet all of the selection
criteria. The names Coastal Renaissance, Coastal Inspiration and Coastal Celebration are the
result of combining names that were submitted by various entrants.

“We were extremely pleased with the enthusiastic response to the contest from our
employees and customers,” said Corrigan. “The advisory board carefully reviewed each
submission and, after much discussion, unanimously agreed on the three names that best met
the naming criteria for our Super C-class vessels.”

In accordance with contest rules, since no one entrant submitted the selected names in
their entirety, all eligible entries were entered into a random draw for one of three grand prize
packages, including two nights at a B.C. resort, dining gift certificates and travel onboard
BC Ferries. The list of winners is available at www.bcferries.com.

BC Ferries is also sending a roundtrip pass for a vehicle and driver to the 129 members
of the public who submitted a portion of the selected names. The 30 employees who submitted a portion of the selected names will each receive a BC Ferries gift certificate.

“Although we combined portions of name submissions to arrive at the final selections,
we wanted to send a special thank you to the 159 entrants who provided us with great
suggestions that we could build on,” said Corrigan.

The first of the Super C-class vessels, which are being built by Flensburger Schiffbau-
Gesselschaft of Germany, will arrive in British Columbia by December 2007, the second in
March 2008 and the third by June 2008.

The new Super C-class vessels are among the first of BC Ferries’ Newbuild Program
that will see 22 vessels built over the next 15 years.

- 30 -

Media Contact:
BC Ferries, Communications
Victoria: [phone]
Customer Contact:
Victoria: [phone]
Toll-free: 1-888-BCFERRY (1-888-223-3779)
British Columbia Ferry Services Inc., 1112 Fort Street, Victoria, BC V8V 4V2
Tel [phone] Fax [phone] www.bcferries.com/news/

[WettCoast]

In regard to BCFS's justification for their choices I ask the following questions:

How do these names do the following -
signify the geographic area the company operates in; be original, creative and memorable; and be respectful to the communities the vessels will serve.

They do not in anyway at all signify the geographic area that they operate in. On the other hand one would not expect to find vessels with such names operating in Saskatchewan.

Could anyone really say with a straight face that these names are original?

In what way are these names respectful to the communities that they will serve? You really have to wonder what some PR people are smoking there.

Why did they go though the charade of having a contest to name the ships only to have all 7000 entries thrown out and get PR spinmen to choose names instead?

[Fenklebaum]

Doug: I have not for one second claimed to be mature. I will thank you to also kindly take note that I made no mention of BC Ferries' current business model.

The contest was judged by members of BC Ferries staff, correct? Correct. It is then their fault if the names suck, yes? I'm so glad you agree with me.

This has nothing to do with them being a private company, in my eyes. I was thoroughly annoyed when they named the super-ferries 'Spirits'. I was appalled by the asanine 'Pacificat' monikers. On both occasions, those names were chosen by the PUBLICLY FUNDED BCFC. Just because I'm a student does not mean that I'm going to automatically turn everything into a leftist diatribe against the evil-capitalist empire. I am not the NDP's propaganda-whor*.

[Low Light Mike]

Here's what comes to mind when I hear the new names:

"Coastal Renaissance":
- a hotel
- the name of a coal harbour condo tower
- the name of a breakfast-special at White-Spot
- the name of an exotic-dancer
- the name of John H's next child


"Coastal Inspiration"
- a name for a cologne or perfume
- the name for a yoga-pose
- the name of an exotic-dancer
- a euphemism for a dumb idea thought-of while stoned


"Coastal Celebration"
- the vancouver gay-pride parade
- the theme for a religious group's convention
- the name of the next album put out by Raffi
- the name of an exotic-dancer

[Doug]

You seemed to direct your taunt to David Hahn and Hahn only...but remember that people working for BC Ferries aren't always experienced.

[Fenklebaum]

Inexperienced? Perhaps. A dumb idea's still a dumb idea, though.

Raffi... *shudders*

[Doug]

fenklebaum said:

Inexperienced? Perhaps. A dumb idea's still a dumb idea, though.

Raffi... *shudders*

Inexperienced..which in many peoples' eyes aren't as greedy as the executives....

[Neil]

Mr Fenklebaum- although I don't share your dismay at our new gallant ships' names, I congratulate you for taking umbrage at the nasty epithet, 'mature'. In some cases, like trees, mature is just a euphemism for old, diseased, or ready to be cut down. I should know. I'm very mature.
If nothing else, this naming furore has provoked a fair bit of creativity, beyond the vitriol. That can't hurt. Indignation is the father of hyperbole, or something like that. Good fun.
And 'collector, I sort of disagree with you: there's nothing wrong with a bit of friction, as long as no one ends up swinging from the yard arm.

[WettCoast]

My parting thought on the names is that BCFS management has managed yet again to go off course and run full speed into yet another island and they can't blame it on a faulty GPS.

[Scott]

I don't even know why they held the contest. It almost sounds like the picked the names beforehand, the way it was explained by one of the BC Ferries executives. And I'm sure out of thousands of entries, they could find a few with "rennissance" "inspiration" and whatever the other one is called, mentioned in them. Since the Spirit class vessels, the names seem to be getting more and more pathetic, and less and less original. I just hope they keep the Queen names for the minor vessels.

At least we have no doubt these ferries will be serving the Coastal region of .... hey, I almost said B.C.

I'm sure the "Rennissance" on BC Ferries (people - me too - will have problems spelling that one out:) will be realized every Friday evening when people are standing in a 30 minute lineup for their up BC Burger with watered down diet coke and cold fries after sitting at Horseshoe Bay for 3 hours... then trying to find a seat, which will be even harder since they're going to try harder to force everyone up to the passenger decks.

Inspiration... just what the names lack.

I hope they all invite us to the "Celebration" when the third ferry arrives.

I'm not so disappointed that they didn't continue with the "Queen of" ... that was expected. But I also didn't expect them to sound like tourism slogans found on a "Visit BC" advertisement in your typical travel magazine.

I thought it would have been a good idea to name them after historical BC figures (female:) ... but in our politically-correct climate... I was pretty sure that wouldn't pass.

[BrianWilliams]

The best points against these insufferably sappy names have been well made by many members.

Long-time members may have been expecting my perennial name complaint to appear again. No disappointment! Here it is ...

I believe that geographical names, personal names and fanciful terms are not right for our seaworthy ships.

Fourth time around: I insist that BC Ferries is missing an opportunity to teach history to kids, educate newer British Columbians and instill respect in all of us for our coastal heritage.

Name our new boats after the earliest ships on this coast; the vessels that made coastal BC. I prefer Resolution or Discovery (Cook 1778) as a start; Discovery came back in 1791 under Vancouver, accompanied by hardy little Chatham.

Vancouver's later great friend Quadra's ship Sonora was on this coast in 1775.

Galiano was surveying our south coast in Sutil with Valdes in tiny Mexicana ... when the Spaniards met Vancouver's two boat fleet in "English" Bay, and they anchored at "Spanish" Banks for a friendly conference -- which led to a co-operative exploration of the inland sea.

Later names are candidates too: Meare's North West America, HBC's Otter and Beaver, the Royal Navy's Forward and -darn, such a clunky name- Captain Richards' sloop Plumper - the little ship that explored every cove and reef on our coast in the 1850's; the Richards expedition gave today's names to most of our islands and channels.

[jjr]

Oh I love it - the Plumper Queen ... or how about the Beaver Spirit ...