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Post by SS Shasta on Feb 15, 2007 17:41:55 GMT -8
Three ferries will soon be assigned to the Edmonds-Kingston route for the period of 25 Feb. to 20 March. MV Spokane will shift to Bremerton to replace MV Hyak. She will be replaced at Edmonds by MV Evergreen State and MV Chelan for the period of 25 Feb. to 3 March. Then MV Chelan will be replaced by MV Quinault until 20 March. Looks like this spring will provide unique opportunities to ride different vessels on different routes!!  |
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Post by Political Incorrectness on Feb 15, 2007 17:46:17 GMT -8
SS please use the other thread instead of two of the same.
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Post by SS Shasta on Feb 15, 2007 18:01:39 GMT -8
SS please use the other thread instead of two of the same. Sorry, but the other thread hadn't been posted at the time. It came 4 minutes later. ;D |
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 15, 2007 20:14:32 GMT -8
Three Ferries to Operate on Edmonds/Kingston Route February 25-March 20
(EDMONDS) Two small vessels will replace one larger vessel on the Edmonds/Kingston route later this month when the M/V Spokane must be used on the Seattle/Bremerton route to replace the M/V Hyak that needs to go in for emergency repairs. The second large vessel, the 188-car M/V Walla Walla will remain on the route.
The 124-car M/V Chelan and the 87-car M/V Evergreen State will replace the 188-car Spokane for the week of February 25-March 3. From March 4- March 20, the 87-car Evergreen State and the 59-car M/V Quinault will replace the Spokane.
“We have done this before,” says Traci Brewer-Rogstad, Director of Marine Operations, “and it works quite well. The third boat follows behind picking up excess traffic left in the holding lanes so it actually feels like we are moving more traffic.
“The issue may be tall space,” says Ms. Brewer-Rogstad. “The Quinault has auto clearance of 13’2” and the Evergreen State clears 13’7”. The Walla Walla has auto clearance of 15’6”, so some very tall vehicles may need to wait to sail on the Walla Walla to get safe height clearance.”
Both the overall ferry maintenance schedule and availability of replacement vessels has been impacted by two unexpected major vessel breakdowns, the M/V Elwha with a drive motor failure and the rudder failure on the M/V Tacoma.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 15, 2007 20:17:35 GMT -8
Three Ferries to Operate on Edmonds/Kingston Route February 25-March 20 Am I missing something? Why three boats at Edmonds Kingston? Why can't the Issaquah just shift to Bremerton with the Evergreen State replacing her at Vashon? Isn't this the obvious solution? Didn't we just run Bremerton with two Issaquah 130s a month ago? |
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Post by In Washington on Feb 16, 2007 8:07:28 GMT -8
When WSF put two Issaquah 130 class vessels on the Bremerton run it was because of the Tacoma breakdown. They Hyak was moved to Bainbridge as a replacement. The weather during that period was the saving grace for both runs.
With the Hyak as the 0620 sailing from Bremerton we are overloading by up to 35 cars on weekdays. An Issaquah 130 would be leaving 50-60 cars behind.
Using this method gives Bremerton the much needed capacity in the morning and afternoon commutes and also increases the capacity, albeit using three boats, on the Edmonds/Kingston run.
This is not something that would be pleasant all of the time but it works for the one month period WSF is looking at while boats are down.
WSF will be smiling when the Elwha and Tacoma are back and the normal rotation of vessels can be back on track.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2007 10:01:58 GMT -8
So according to the WSF vessel watch the Chelan is on the Kingston route this morning with the Walla Walla. Does anyone know where the Spokane is? I could not locate her on the vessel watch and she is not down at Eagle Harbor. The Evergreen State, however, is warming up down here and just was on the move out of the shipyard about 10 minutes ago moving over to a different slip at the yard.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Feb 25, 2007 10:36:21 GMT -8
Vessel watch as of 10:25... Seattle-Bremerton:  Edmonds-Kingston:  Evergreen State and Spokane are nowhere to be seen. I just checked vessel watch again and it shows the Hyak going towards Bainbridge. |
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Post by old_wsf_fan on Feb 25, 2007 10:56:12 GMT -8
I saw the Spokane at Colman dock, in the no. 2 slip, taking over for the Hyak on the 10:20 run out of Seattle.
Because it is the winter schedule and Sunday, there is not alot of traffic at this time and WSF has the time to get the vessels swapped out slowly.
The vessel watch is not very accurate lately. They used to show vessels in-route to their perspective runs, but I have noticed that they no longer do this.
I wish they would go back to showing all the vessels when they are underway, makes it alot more interesting.
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 25, 2007 15:22:33 GMT -8
Vessel watch acknowledges three boats on the run at Kingston.
Usually they don't show boat movements any more, because you would be surprised at the number of calls the system gets asking what a boat's doing somewhere. Which is, I suppose, better than someone calling the police or the media the instant they see something they think is unusual, rather than the office. ;D
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Post by SS Shasta on Feb 25, 2007 15:52:01 GMT -8
Is this the first time that MV Evergreen State has worked the Edmonds-Kingston route? I remember her sister MV Tillikum worked the route for several years; also I believe MV Chelan was there two or three years ago with MV Quinault. Hope I can get a few photos when I am down in mid March . |
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 25, 2007 15:57:19 GMT -8
Is this the first time that MV Evergreen State has worked the Edmonds-Kingston route? I remember her sister MV Tillikum worked the route for several years; also I believe MV Chelan was there two or three years ago with MV Quinault. Hope I can get a few photos when I am down in mid March . The Evergreen has filled in at Kingston for a time or two before. The Chelan is in home waters--for years it was the Chelan and the Yakima or another Super before the traffic outpaced the Chelan and they put two Supers at K-E. |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Feb 25, 2007 15:59:28 GMT -8
She was on that route sometime in the late 80's - early 90's. It was after the 2'nd loading slip had been built at Kingston, but before the dock was completely rebuilt.
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Post by hergfest on Feb 25, 2007 17:11:25 GMT -8
I'm gonna do a round trip when the Quinault takes over. Go over on the Evergreen, come back on the Quinault.
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Post by zman on Feb 26, 2007 8:37:19 GMT -8
I did the R/T on the Evergreen yesterday...it was very interesting because the railroad gate at Edmonds was malfunctioning. That resulted in the Edmonds to Kingston trip only having about 30 or so cars onboard. The Walla Walla was waiting for the slip, so we left. I noticed something: WSF's only vessels that use two words in the name (WALLA WALLA and EVERGREEN STATE) are on the same route...just a wierd little thing that I noticed. It will be sweet when the Q boat shows up. |
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Post by Barnacle on Feb 26, 2007 10:25:35 GMT -8
Let's see: the Tillikum was a relief boat at Kingston in 1989-90 for a couple of months that I remember; the Evergreen sat in at Kingston right after her MLU because they were adding ballast to her keel (she's very top-heavy since the lift job), so about 1988-9. Once they were done with said ballast, she returned to the San Juans until 2000, when replaced as the #1 boat by the Elwha.
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Post by SS Shasta on Feb 26, 2007 12:05:19 GMT -8
Three Ferries to Operate on Edmonds/Kingston Route February 25-March 20 “We have done this before,” says Traci Brewer-Rogstad, Director of Marine Operations, “and it works quite well. The third boat follows behind picking up excess traffic left in the holding lanes so it actually feels like we are moving more traffic. According to the official WSF announcement, this has been done before and "works quite well!" Why not try it again this summer to reduce the long lines of vehicles that plague this route? Seems like it would be a good public relations boost for WSF. Why couldn't MV Evergreen State continue to serve as the reserve vessel if needed, but work the Edmonds-Kingston route when not needed for emergency service? |
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 26, 2007 15:15:32 GMT -8
Three Ferries to Operate on Edmonds/Kingston Route February 25-March 20 “We have done this before,” says Traci Brewer-Rogstad, Director of Marine Operations, “and it works quite well. The third boat follows behind picking up excess traffic left in the holding lanes so it actually feels like we are moving more traffic. According to the official WSF announcement, this has been done before and "works quite well!" Why not try it again this summer to reduce the long lines of vehicles that plague this route? Seems like it would be a good public relations boost for WSF. Why couldn't MV Evergreen State continue to serve as the reserve vessel if needed, but work the Edmonds-Kingston route when not needed for emergency service? To quote a song from the disco era, "Money, Money, Money." It ain't the budget so it ain't gonna happen. (And an extra point if you can name the group that put out said song.)  |
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Post by Mike C on Feb 26, 2007 15:26:03 GMT -8
(And an extra point if you can name the group that put out said song.) I know! I know! Donald Trump. ;D But seriously here folks: Taking a quick glimpse at the Edmonds cameras here: the Chelan clears out the vehicles quite nicely. The Evergreen State comes and goes, all that is left is the carbon monoxide of the vehicles. |
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Post by SS San Mateo on Feb 26, 2007 15:55:20 GMT -8
To quote a song from the disco era, "Money, Money, Money." It ain't the budget so it ain't gonna happen. (And an extra point if you can name the group that put out said song.) That would be ABBA that put out that song. |
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Post by EGfleet on Feb 26, 2007 15:59:18 GMT -8
To quote a song from the disco era, "Money, Money, Money." It ain't the budget so it ain't gonna happen. (And an extra point if you can name the group that put out said song.) That would be ABBA that put out that song. You get the extra point for knowing your ABBA!  |
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Post by zman on Feb 26, 2007 17:27:38 GMT -8
 Here is Edmonds...with the Evergreen |
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Post by SS Shasta on Feb 27, 2007 17:46:44 GMT -8
Just wondering; are the upper deck walk on passenger loaders being used for MV Evergreen State or do walk-ons use the car deck? Car deck loading of walk on passengers is needed for MV Quinault.
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Post by zman on Feb 27, 2007 18:01:55 GMT -8
They are using the overhead walkway for the Evergreen.
That also answers my question, I was wondering how it would work on a S/E boat.
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Post by northwesterner on Feb 27, 2007 18:22:29 GMT -8
Just wondering; are the upper deck walk on passenger loaders being used for MV Evergreen State or do walk-ons use the car deck? Car deck loading of walk on passengers is needed for MV Quinault. Quinault, Illahee, and Nisqually all have gates for an overhead loading ramp for walk on passengers. I'm not sure about Klickitat. Presumably, the overhead walkway will be used if the ramp and gates "line up." When Nisqually used to do the Friday Harbor - Anacortes non stop Winter service in the 90s, did she use the overhead walkways at Anacortes? |
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