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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 23, 2012 7:36:40 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 23, 2012 19:28:52 GMT -8
For a discussion relating to the Northern View article posted by Mr. Horn above you go back to reply #56 on this thread from two years ago, or you could just read the same thing quoted here: Yeah, it's an interesting quirk, but understandable once you consider the entire situation: - ferry terminal is used a max of 1.5 times per day in summer, and less in off-season. - rail line is used very seldomly, as this is just end-of-track. - VIA rail and BCF share a terminal, so this makes it plausible that there is communication between the 2, re when that old track is used by a train. Very different than if there was a railway track beside a high-use ferry terminal. ps: same situation at the Alaska terminal, next door. I gather that the rail line there sees an average of 4 to 6 train movements per day as some freight does move into the down town Rupert yards, some freight traffic moves to and from the Aqua Train terminal just north of the BCFS terminal, and of course there is also Via's trains. In addition to that CN traffic to the nearby Fairview container terminal brings train movements past both ferry terminals as container flat cars are being marshalled into the container terminal yards. That is what I saw on May 9th 2009 as seen in the photo below. As container traffic to Rupert is expected to grow substantially I would expect rail movements by the ferry terminals to become more frequent. Coal & grain traffic to Rupert never comes this far, however. The end of the line for that traffic is at Ridley Island.  PS: I think at least one WSF terminal has a fairly busy BNSF line going right by the terminal entrance. This is not a 'seldom used' rail line and the issue will likely get worse. Also impacted is the AMHS terminal situated between the DIF & BC Ferries. |
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Post by lmtengs on Jun 23, 2012 22:27:03 GMT -8
I can see an overpass being built over the tracks and some fill being added on the shore side of the tracks sometime in the future if rail traffic ends up getting much worse in that area. The BCF terminal would essentially be rebuilt on said fill on the shore-side of the tracks.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 19, 2012 16:45:20 GMT -8
Here are some pictures of what's left of the Kelsey Bay Ferry Terminal, taken earlier this month: Maverick post moved here, see above for detail. - see earlier posts in this thread for other views of this same old area. |
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Post by lmtengs on Aug 19, 2012 17:10:39 GMT -8
Here are some pictures of what's left of the Kelsey Bay Ferry Terminal, taken earlier this month: Maverick post moved here, see above for detail. - see earlier posts in this thread for other views of this same old area. Shouldn't historical terminals belong in the historical board? That makes the most sense to me, at least. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 19, 2012 17:26:47 GMT -8
Maverick post moved here, see above for detail. - see earlier posts in this thread for other views of this same old area. Shouldn't historical terminals belong in the historical board? That makes the most sense to me, at least. We could do all sorts of things a whole bunch of different ways, but this here is how we've done the terminals. We picked one way, and went with it. The route still exists, and we don't have too many of these ex-terminals, so they fit nicely into the current terminal threads. - ex-terminals are a minor categorization issue, so any way that we choose to group them should be ok to all, or at least easy for all to adapt to. Ships, as we've found, are a different thing.... |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 20, 2012 13:05:34 GMT -8
 The rebar used in the construction of these supports is visible in the deteriorating concrete. The wharf in the background is one of my favourite ship-spotting locations. A good place for cruise-ships, AMHS ferries (Columbia and Kennicott) and for BC Ferries repositionings. My next chance to see a BC Ferry there will be the Queen of Chilliwack, sometime in mid September. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 23, 2012 20:28:50 GMT -8
Hostling a drop trailer at Prince Rupert terminal.
- onto the NorAd, headed for Haida Gwaii.
July 2010.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 27, 2012 13:26:25 GMT -8
Video that I shot in July 2010 of an RV backing onto the ferry Northern Adventure, at Skidegate terminal.
- a slow and painful process
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 28, 2012 7:55:52 GMT -8
A compilation of video clips of areas near the various Route-40 terminals, and some shots of the terminals themselves.
- from my July 2011 Discovery Coast trip.
- Arriving at McLoughlin Bay
- Nearing Shearwater; not much of a glimpse of the ferry dock, but it shows the neighbourhood.
- Arriving at Klemtu, with a short glimpse of the downtown-dock.
- Backing into Bella Coola berth, and marshalled traffic convoy arriving
- Nearing Bear Cove, a "just around the corner" sequence.
Not much terminal detail, but this gives you an idea of the scenes near each terminal.
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Post by bcboychronicles on Oct 28, 2012 9:39:37 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 28, 2012 12:04:52 GMT -8
Not trying to sell, per se, just trying to become a member. This is my memoir from Beaver Cover, 1977 Hi Alfred. What's the connection to ferry terminals? - do your memoirs include some mention of the days when the Island Princess ferry ran from Kelsey Bay to Beaver Cove ? |
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Post by WettCoast on Nov 30, 2012 18:09:50 GMT -8
Changes made to the berth at Fairview Terminal, Prince Rupert, to better facilitate ship tie-up. Apparently they needed this modification to have mooring lines at a much less steep angle then they used to be. 
Fairview Terminal, Prince Rupert, as seen from the departing Northern Expedition - 30 November 2012. See if you can spot the damage done on November 3rd as the NorEx attempted to berth in very difficult wind conditions. That was the occasion when their sceduled 4 PM docking was not actually accomplished until 11:30 PM.  photo © WCK-JST] by Wett Coast, on Flickr[/size] |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 1, 2012 10:11:50 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 17, 2013 21:31:23 GMT -8
Fairview - Prince Rupert's shared AMHS & BCF ferry terminal overview - 14 September 1977Visible on the left is the airport ferry terminal with the ferry in the dock. (Is it the DIF?) To the right of that is the AMHS terminal. The BCF terminal building with the pastel blue trim is on the far right. In those days (up until late in 1980) BCF & AMHS shared the lone berth. The BCF terminal building seen in this photo was lost in a fire a few years later. It was replaced by the building currently used by BCF & Via Rail. The architecture & look of that original BCF terminal building was used at many other terminals. I believe that Saltery Bay, south of Powell River, still has such a building. Via & CN trains use the CNR tracks which run up the middle of this photo. In the distance, beyond the BCF/AMHS terminal, is the Aquatrain terminal, where CN loads rail car barges which are transported to the Alaska Railway, far to the north.  photo © WCK-JST by Wett Coast, on Flickr
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Post by Mike C on Apr 18, 2013 0:03:57 GMT -8
Visible on the left is the airport ferry terminal with the ferry in the dock. (Is it the DIF?) Yes, this definitely looks like the DIF, but in what appears to be the Ministry of Highways livery. Was this operated by Highways before it was operated by the City of Prince Rupert? The BCF terminal building seen in this photo was lost in a fire a few years later. It was replaced by the building currently used by BCF & Via Rail. The architecture & look of that original BCF terminal building was used at many other terminals. I believe that Saltery Bay, south of Powell River, still has such a building. The "look" seemed to be cookie-cutter design throughout the fleet. Sturdies Bay, Saltery Bay, Earls Cove (?) and many other minor terminals have the same style. |
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Post by dave2 on Oct 29, 2013 21:20:25 GMT -8
The greatest yada yada building era, imho, would be roughly 1955-1965. Modern higways, modern ferries. There were a few loose ends. 1979... The Trans Carrot Highway opens. Goodbye Kelsey Bay. Attachments:
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 13, 2014 17:30:52 GMT -8
A small upgrade project at the Skidegate terminal, mainly impacting the terminal building from HEREWe need to figure out a way to get a WCFF photo-journalism team up to Skidegate terminal to document and report on the project's progress.  |
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Post by Starsteward on Jan 14, 2014 14:24:37 GMT -8
While we are on the topic of Northern Terminals,perhaps some of our illustrious members could shed some light on what possessed BC Ferries back in the day to EVER make Kelsey Bay the Southern terminus for the run to Prince Rupert? Yes there was a dock of sorts that the North Island Pricess used but? Back in the day, I don't recall ever wondering why we had such a long car or crew bus ride up the (old) Island Highway, we just did it  Really, once one got past the lovely sea-coast scenery and Campbell River, one headed into serious logging country, which culminated at a very busy log dumping operation at Salmon River, the village that was more identifiable with Islanders, most tourists never having heard of Salmon River, were on the look-out for 'Kelsey Bay' and the ferry terminal. Docking at Kelsey Bay during tide changes was very challenging and tested the skills of many a QPR Master, some accomplishing the task better than others. Viewing the long term picture, (or maybe back in the day there wasn't one) would it have made sense to locate the Southern terminal elsewhere?With all due respect to the good citizens of Port Hardy, was locating the teminal at Bear Cove an operational choice, ie. shorter trips, less fuel etc. or a chance to boost tourism at the North end of the Island, or all of the above? |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 14, 2014 14:51:05 GMT -8
While we are on the topic of Northern Terminals,perhaps some of our illustrious members could shed some light on what possessed BC Ferries back in the day to EVER make Kelsey Bay the Southern terminus for the run to Prince Rupert? Yes there was a dock of sorts that the North Island Pricess used but? Why Kelsey bay, back in the day? It was the only location north of Seymour Narrows which also had a highway or paved-road connection. An hour's drive north of Campbell River, made it close enough for people to lay-up in Campbell River area hotels the day before or after the sailing. -------- Why Port Hardy? - It allows for a daylight summer-season day-cruise between the 2 ports. 7:30am to 10:30pm. Port Hardy allows this timing to happen. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 20, 2014 15:25:37 GMT -8
Question for anyone who's taken the off-season Inside Passage route recently:
- Is BC Ferries officially referring to the new Klemtu terminal as "Wedge Rock" ?
Is that how they are making on-board announcements regarding the call-in at Klemtu? "Next stop is Wedge Rock, Klemtu...."
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Post by Mike C on Jan 20, 2014 15:34:04 GMT -8
Question for anyone who's taken the off-season Inside Passage route recently: - Is BC Ferries officially referring to the new Klemtu terminal as "Wedge Rock" ? Is that how they are making on-board announcements regarding the call-in at Klemtu? "Next stop is Wedge Rock, Klemtu...." Wedge Rock is the name of the new terminal in Klemtu built a few years back. It isn't refered to that in schedules or announcements, but that was the name given to the project by BC Ferries and the Ministry of Transportation. So to differentiate it from the town center terminal, we call it Wedge Rock. Similarly, Mcloughlin Bay is now refered to as just "Bella Bella" but we still refer to it by its original name. Speaking of announcements, most north coast announcements are now automated with a similar sounding voice used on the south coast. These include "30 minutes from/now in dock at Prince Rupert", "30 minutes from/now in dock at Port Hardy", "Welcome Aboard", and "car deck open for the next 15 minutes." |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 20, 2014 16:30:45 GMT -8
Wedge Rock is the name of the new terminal in Klemtu built a few years back. It isn't refered to that in schedules or announcements, but that was the name given to the project by BC Ferries and the Ministry of Transportation. So to differentiate it from the town center terminal, we call it Wedge Rock. Similarly, Mcloughlin Bay is now refered to as just "Bella Bella" but we still refer to it by its original name. Thanks. That's what I thought, that "Wedge Rock" was what our forum picked-up from the beginning of the construction project, and that it's our "for those in the know" special name for that terminal. I Googled "Wedge Rock" & "Klemtu" and the various results are things like fishing locations and marine hazard references (Wedge Rock is the name of the nearly shoal) and the ferry terminal construction announcement, and of course our forum references. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jan 20, 2014 20:50:23 GMT -8
I think the term 'Wedge Rock Terminal' is pretty much the same as 'Fairview Terminal'. Officially these terminals are called Klemtu & Prince Rupert. In the case of Klemtu, though, there is the 'downtown' terminal & Wedge Rock. The latter may be routinely called Wedge Rock so as not to confuse it with 'downtown'.
This brings up a question: With the end of route 40 will the downtown terminal be decommissioned? Have Klemtuians lost their visiting/floating restaurant that called routinely in summer?
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jan 20, 2014 22:14:35 GMT -8
Does the Chilliwack not use the Wedge Rock terminal??? Or was the designed specific for the Nor Ex Nor Ad??
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