Koastal Karl
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 15, 2008 21:45:53 GMT -8
When was the last time she had a refit?? Do WSF care about how their ships look?? The Chelan still has those ugly rust spots on her. I saw her in Sidney today. She looks aweful. She had them a year ago too when I saw her. Maybe they need to take her out of service and repaint her!
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Post by EGfleet on May 16, 2008 8:06:17 GMT -8
When was the last time she had a refit?? Do WSF care about how their ships look?? The Chelan still has those ugly rust spots on her. I saw her in Sidney today. She looks aweful. She had them a year ago too when I saw her. Maybe they need to take her out of service and repaint her! WSF is more concerned that their ferries are running at the moment, rather than the purely cosmetic issues of paint. Yes, she needs paint, but it is more important to the people traveling to Sidney that the ferry is running. Take her out and replace her with what, exactly? The Elwha is spoken for until fall, at which point she'll be taken out service for a few months in the yard so that she can retain her SOLAS cert. Rusty or not, the Chelan is a steady runner. She'll be the Sidney boat until it shuts down in January. Hopefully she'll actually get her yard time this time (as all but a week of it was canceled this spring) and get a new coat of paint.  |
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Post by hergfest on May 16, 2008 10:16:17 GMT -8
She hasn't been painted since she got her extra car deck. You can clearly see where they added it on her exterior.
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Post by Barnacle on May 16, 2008 13:25:52 GMT -8
That was the last time she received paint from what I recall.
But as to the business about the paint... we've been over this before. Repeatedly.
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Post by Kahloke on May 19, 2008 11:12:31 GMT -8
I was on Chelan yesterday afternoon - the 4:15 sailing from Orcas. I noticed several historical ferry postings on the walls around the duty free shop that seemed to be garnering attention from a few of the passengers. Is that your work, Evergreenfleet? It's pretty cool, and it gives passengers a little ferry history lesson.
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Post by EGfleet on May 19, 2008 14:54:15 GMT -8
I was on Chelan yesterday afternoon - the 4:15 sailing from Orcas. I noticed several historical ferry postings on the walls around the duty free shop that seemed to be garnering attention from a few of the passengers. Is that your work, Evergreenfleet? It's pretty cool, and it gives passengers a little ferry history lesson. Yep, that's me. I started doing that when we first got the Chelan and folks seem to really like the photos. I change them out about once a month. |
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Post by ruddernut on Jun 15, 2008 10:17:00 GMT -8
WSF is more concerned that their ferries are running at the moment, rather than the purely cosmetic issues of paint. Rust = corrosion. It is more than just a cosmetic issue, and may be advisable to correct sooner rather than let the problem exacerbate. |
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 15, 2008 13:47:04 GMT -8
WSF is more concerned that their ferries are running at the moment, rather than the purely cosmetic issues of paint. Rust = corrosion. It is more than just a cosmetic issue, and may be advisable to correct sooner rather than let the problem exacerbate. I'll run right out there with a can of spray paint.  |
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Post by Barnacle on Jun 15, 2008 14:45:02 GMT -8
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Post by Kahloke on Jun 15, 2008 15:48:34 GMT -8
Does anyone know what Chelan's maintenance schedule is? I know she is listed for continuous service in the San Juans through the end of summer, but what about in the fall? Has WSF maintained, or renewed, SOLAS certification on Elwha? If so, Elwha could potentially replace Chelan when the fall schedule commences, and Chelan could be pulled for maintenance, and painting, if any facilities are available. It's just a thought.
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Post by SS San Mateo on Jun 15, 2008 17:01:00 GMT -8
The Elwha is currently running on a temporary SOLAS certificate and is scheduled for SOLAS upgrades (which had been scheduled for earlier this year) this fall.
The Chelan was scheduled for repainting earlier this year (exterior was supposed to be done during drydocking), but had to be postponed due to unexpected problems (mainly the "must be repaired by May 1" mandates for 3 vessels and other unexpected repairs).
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Post by EGfleet on Jun 15, 2008 18:27:56 GMT -8
The Elwha is currently running on a temporary SOLAS certificate and is scheduled for SOLAS upgrades (which had been scheduled for earlier this year) this fall. The Chelan was scheduled for repainting earlier this year (exterior was supposed to be done during drydocking), but had to be postponed due to unexpected problems (mainly the "must be repaired by May 1" mandates for 3 vessels and other unexpected repairs). The Chelan is scheduled to be the Sidney boat until it shuts down for the season. The Elwha will be going out about mid-October last I saw and will be out for the rest of fall. |
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Post by stvfishy on Jul 31, 2008 11:25:39 GMT -8
Hmmmmmm  This is a little off??? why would it go between the 2 islands and not use the main channel??? Whales??? Bad survey fix... or....  |
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Post by EGfleet on Jul 31, 2008 11:51:35 GMT -8
Hmmmmmm This a little off??? why would it go between the 2 islands and not use the main channel??? Whales??? Bad survey fix... or.... They do this all the time. Gives the passengers a nice view of Spieden and takes no additional time. The captains of the Chelan often take alternate routes to keep familiar with them and keep up on the storm routes. They don't take any additional time as a rule. Yesterday we went around the back side of Spieden (storm route) and last week if you had been watching you'd have seen us go behind Stuart Island. (Storm route #2). I love the Stuart Island route. We get to see one of the Spirit Class fairly close up and get a look at the light house on Stuart Island. (Turn Point light) www.lighthousefriends.com/light.asp?ID=104 |
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Post by Kahloke on Jul 31, 2008 13:06:54 GMT -8
I've been on the international sailing before on all three of the Spieden Island alternates. This has been quite some time ago (ie. late 80's). The other alternate I enjoy is the Pevine Pass route between Anacortes, Lopez, Shaw, & Orcas - when they go up around the north end of Blakely. That's pretty scenic, too.
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Post by EGfleet on Aug 1, 2008 9:43:55 GMT -8
I've been on the international sailing before on all three of the Spieden Island alternates. This has been quite some time ago (ie. late 80's). The other alternate I enjoy is the Pevine Pass route between Anacortes, Lopez, Shaw, & Orcas - when they go up around the north end of Blakely. That's pretty scenic, too. Pevine is particularly pretty in the fall. The pass is lined with vine maples which of course turn bright red in the fall...on a sunny day you can't find a prettier route. (Thatcher Pass, the normal route, while still pretty, just isn't quite the same.  ) |
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 1, 2008 14:54:36 GMT -8
Pssst, gang... it's 'Peavine." And it is quite pretty. I haven't been through there since the end of storm season. If I ever have a day where the boat's actually on schedule and the tide is going my way, I think I shall. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Apr 30, 2009 14:08:22 GMT -8
wow! Nothing has really changed since I started this thread. The Chelan still looks the same as she did when this thread was started only worse. I am totally disgusted with WSF after seeing the Chelan today, the Sidney route should be pulled so they can give the Chelan a paint job those cheap dummies at WSF need a kick in the ass. Sorry this just really annoys me. Are they that cheap they cant paint their ships. Big rusty lines all along the side of the ship and rust spots where it used to look like there was portholes on each end. She looks horrible and should be pulled out of service till they can at least make her look nice for the summer season. I would be embarrassed to be on a ship like that. I know our Northern ships can get pretty rusty but the Chelan looks like she hasent been painted in years. I mean come on WSF.
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Post by Kahloke on Apr 30, 2009 14:48:44 GMT -8
It is pretty embarrassing, and Yakima and Hyak are just as bad, if not worse. I'm kind of surprised WSF pulled Spokane out to be overhauled this spring instead of Yakima or Hyak, but they must have their reasons. I don't see how Chelan can be pulled anytime soon since she is the only SOLAS-compliant vessel we have. If they re-instate Elwha's certification, Chelan could go into the shop then.
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Post by Barnacle on Apr 30, 2009 15:00:19 GMT -8
The Chelan still looks the same as she did when this thread was started only worse. The boat doesn't hardly get enough down time to keep up with annual maintenance, let alone paint... it's hard to paint a ship in January. No, they're that broke. We can't pull the Sidney run because (a) there's no back-up boat because there wasn't money available to do the upgrades to the Elwha and (b) there'd be all kinds of political flak from BOTH sides of the run. Again... and replace her with what? The only thing I can do with this next statement is use a larger font: there are no replacement boats available. Try working on one. She hasn't, since 2001 when the wings were installed... the refit in '06 for SOLAS only got her some touch-ups where the welding scorched the paint. |
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Post by SS Shasta on Apr 30, 2009 15:11:01 GMT -8
It is pretty embarrassing, and Yakima and Hyak are just as bad, if not worse. I'm kind of surprised WSF pulled Spokane out to be overhauled this spring instead of Yakima or Hyak, but they must have their reasons. I don't see how Chelan can be pulled anytime soon since she is the only SOLAS-compliant vessel we have. If they re-instate Elwha's certification, Chelan could go into the shop then. It sort of looks like the only vessel assigned to the Islands that will look fresh and new will be MV Evergreen State . |
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Post by EGfleet on Apr 30, 2009 15:38:54 GMT -8
It is pretty embarrassing, and Yakima and Hyak are just as bad, if not worse. I'm kind of surprised WSF pulled Spokane out to be overhauled this spring instead of Yakima or Hyak, but they must have their reasons. I don't see how Chelan can be pulled anytime soon since she is the only SOLAS-compliant vessel we have. If they re-instate Elwha's certification, Chelan could go into the shop then. The Spokane got federal stimulus funds for the paint. Since it was "shovel ready" so to speak and could be spared, she got the paint. Same goes for the Evergreen. |
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Post by cobblehillian on Aug 11, 2009 18:18:04 GMT -8
I just got off the Chelan, my fourth trip in 10 days. I certainly agree with every body about the need for a refit and a complete paint job. The crew all agree this is long over due and have concerns about it not being done until January 2010.
I spent some time looking over the ship's papers and came across something that got my curiosity going. The US Coast Guard papers that grant the conditional SOLAS compliance and extend the compliance to include the present operating season both list the vessel's Port of Registry as "Falling Waters, WV". "WV" is the official abbreviation for West Virginia. I do not think this was a mistake or oversight since I'm sure such important documents would be checked and there are two separate documents produced at different times.
All the other papers, of course list Seattle, WA as the Port of Registry. The USCG does have a vessel documentation center at Falling Waters WV but I don't see how that could be the Port of Registry.
Any thoughts?
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Post by Barnacle on Aug 11, 2009 20:57:29 GMT -8
Several of us have participated in a cud-chewing session over that, and we've never been able to figure it out.
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Post by Kam on Aug 11, 2009 21:15:14 GMT -8
I wonder if it has anything to do with WSF selling the boats to one of those capital companies and leasing them back...
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This is a little off??? why would it go between the 2 islands and not use the main channel??? Whales??? Bad survey fix... or....
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