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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 26, 2011 19:17:39 GMT -8
A photo of the Catala, seen at the Cortes Island Museum  And a large photo of the Cowichan, at the Campbell River museum as part of their salmon & ships room.  |
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Post by mrdot on Aug 26, 2011 19:31:16 GMT -8
:)and the second item is not Catalla but rather Lady Cintha or Ceclia, of that I am quite sure. :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 26, 2011 20:12:42 GMT -8
Seen at the Campbell River museum: - from the "Charlie Olson"  Some Union Steamship ephemera  |
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Post by Neil on Aug 26, 2011 22:07:20 GMT -8
In some ways, our coast is actually less connected now than it was in the days of the CPR and Union Steamships. With those companies, Vancouver was connected directly to dozens of tiny communities all the way to the Alaska border. In 2011, there is no scheduled passenger service to places like Redonda Bay, Refuge Cove, and lots of places on the central coast. I wonder if some of those communities, and the central coast in general, might have developed more of an economic basis for existence if those services could have been maintained.
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Post by mrdot on Aug 26, 2011 22:45:10 GMT -8
:)It is ironic that a shipspotters site has featured a ship that once served this coast as Northland Prince, and connected all the way points up coast quite effectively,but now serves the south atlantic, and ironically the ship I once crewed, is now beginning a new life in Fiji! Things are different in this changed economy, and many people, including my brother, wettcoast, will drive down coast the long way, rather than do costly coastal expeditions! You can get cruise ship deals to Alaska for hundreds of dollars, but it is now in the thousands for local coastal ferry travel, for folks up coast. :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 9, 2011 21:21:08 GMT -8
A few Union Steamship items seen at the Royal BC Museum in Victoria:  1928 Sailing Guide   |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2011 9:27:47 GMT -8
What looks to be a CP BC Coast Service ship (because of the stack livery) at Snug Cove in 1927. - I was expecting this to be a Union ship. I didn't realize that CP served Bowen Island.  - Late edit: yes, she is Union ship: Lady Alexandra, of course, and poor tinting by the postcard company. ;D ------------------------------- Postcard is published (or just printed by) Importex Company and the photographer is the great Leonard Frank.  |
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Post by lmtengs on Dec 23, 2011 9:42:59 GMT -8
What looks to be a CP BC Coast Service ship (because of the stack livery) at Snug Cove in 1927. - I was expecting this to be a Union ship. I didn't realize that CP served Bowen Island. Keep in mind that the postcard looks hand-tinted, so the tinters could have gotten the stack colour wrong off of assumption. |
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Post by mrdot on Dec 23, 2011 9:47:50 GMT -8
:)the ship in the snug cove is Lady Alexandria of the Union steam. She is another vessel that could have been retired more gracefully! mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2011 9:52:56 GMT -8
Thanks Viking & Mr. Thorne for helping me identify the Lady Alexandra. - Yes, the colour-tinting is wrong, and the ship profile matches the photos in my reference library for Lady Alexandra.  |
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Post by EGfleet on Dec 23, 2011 10:40:30 GMT -8
What looks to be a CP BC Coast Service ship (because of the stack livery) at Snug Cove in 1927. - I was expecting this to be a Union ship. I didn't realize that CP served Bowen Island. Keep in mind that the postcard looks hand-tinted, so the tinters could have gotten the stack colour wrong off of assumption. True enough. And also don't discount the colors fading over the years as well due to the acid in the paper. I have a lot of old Black Ball steamer postcards that are hand-tinted where the smokestack has faded to a really unpleasant yellow-orange. Black Ball's stacks, as we know, were a bright unmistakeable red. I'll usually go back and correct it in Photoshop on the scan.  |
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Post by Neil on Jan 19, 2012 15:56:54 GMT -8
Lady Alexandra /Vancouver Sun, February 21, 1980.  
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Post by mrdot on Jan 19, 2012 19:44:19 GMT -8
:)the posted newspaper artical of the wreck of dirty sally / Lady Alexandria, got me thinking to how she became a tarted up joke of what she used to be in her last years, just as many other west coast veterens. even the Princess Mary remains of the old restaurant we used to frequent, was a tarted up memory of what she used to be, so the declining years of many of the ships in my life have not been graceful, Sidney, Bainbridge, San Mateao, Princess Louise, Princess Margurite, Kalakala, Catala, the list could go on! :'(mrdot.
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Post by lancer on Jan 26, 2012 16:29:27 GMT -8
I have come across this forum and wish my dad was still alive. The Chelosin is the first ship in my dad's log book and entry date is November 4, 1949. He lost all of his camera equipment when the Chelosin sank. My dad sailed for Union Steamships and I believe CP on the Prince Ships. I took out a library book on Union Steamships Remembered as it was far too expensive to buy from Abe's books. but it was an amazing journey. I am blessed to have most of Rushton's books. A great history not to be forgotten. Cheers, Deb, daughter to Norm (Tex) Hageman. |
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Post by lancer on Jan 26, 2012 16:38:40 GMT -8
Deb, I was most happy to see the name of Norm Hageman on this blog. I first met your father in the early 1950s pn T.S.S. "Cardena". He was one of her Quartermasters and I was getting an annual trip with my father, her Chief Engineer, who was also the Chief Engineer of T.S.S. "Chelohsin" at the time of her grounding near Stanley Park in 1949. Your father used to play checkers with me at night (and usually beat me). I was always looking to see if he was aboard when I made these trips. He was just very nice with me. Captain Harry Roach, Master of "Cardena" always called your father Norman.
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Post by lancer on Jan 28, 2012 13:07:14 GMT -8
Response to the colour of the Union Steamship funnels.
I am sorry but I have not quite got the hang of replying to specific messages.
Anyhow, I have noticed some discussion of the colours of the Union Steamship vessels' funnels. Except for the 1956 season, the Union funnel colours have always been orange with black on top.
I have some old hand tinted postcards showing the funnels as red and black but I have personally seen the funnels painted orange and black.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 28, 2012 13:24:28 GMT -8
Response to the colour of the Union Steamship funnels. I am sorry but I have not quite got the hang of replying to specific messages. Anyhow, I have noticed some discussion of the colours of the Union Steamship vessels' funnels. Except for the 1956 season, the Union funnel colours have always been orange with black on top. I have some old hand tinted postcards showing the funnels as red and black but I have personally seen the funnels painted orange and black. Thanks for your response. I appreciate your "I was there" perspective that I don't have. I've always assumed the funnels were red-and-black. Orange is news to me, but like I said above, you've seen it with your own eyes, and I haven't. Was it a dark shade of orange, so that it was close in colour to red? |
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Post by lancer on Jan 28, 2012 15:15:53 GMT -8
Response to the colour of the Union Steamship funnels. I am sorry but I have not quite got the hang of replying to specific messages. Anyhow, I have noticed some discussion of the colours of the Union Steamship vessels' funnels. Except for the 1956 season, the Union funnel colours have always been orange with black on top. I have some old hand tinted postcards showing the funnels as red and black but I have personally seen the funnels painted orange and black. Thanks for your response. I appreciate your "I was there" perspective that I don't have. I've always assumed the funnels were red-and-black. Orange is news to me, but like I said above, you've seen it with your own eyes, and I haven't. Was it a dark shade of orange, so that it was close in colour to red? Yes, the colour was a very dark orange - not light at all. On entering my father's cabin on the Boat Deck of the "Cardena" it was impossible to miss seeing her funnel. |
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Post by lancer on Feb 7, 2012 16:48:36 GMT -8
Actually, the picture of the "Lady Alexandra" in Snug Cove, Bowen Island, shows the proper orange colour of Union Steamship vessels.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Mar 25, 2012 17:49:39 GMT -8
My annual check-in to see how the stern of the Cardena is doing. - at Kelsey Bay on March 24, 2012.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 28, 2012 18:44:34 GMT -8
From a 1969 publication by the Vancouver Real Estate Board, “Through Lions Gate.” General photographs credit in the book is to Ted Czolowski. I purchased the book for $3 at a local Rotary Club book sale, just for the interesting “back in the day” photos.  Looking closer beside the Bayshore hotel, is an ex Union Steamship moored. Seeing this in the photo, I remembered something I'd read in some of my USS books, and so I went to my bookshelf to find out which ship this is. - She is the Lady Alexandra and she was a restaurant during the 1960s.  |
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Post by mrdot on Apr 28, 2012 20:04:15 GMT -8
:)my retirement room library is full of these volumes that you have posted excerpts thereof, the photo of the aerial shot of the Bayshore Inn and the adjacent moored Lady Alex. reminds me of the stay of the reclusive Howard Hughes at about this timeframe, and the shot of the new Queen of New West. and the Sechelt Q. entering Horshoe Bay, all date from this time! :)mrdot.
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Post by Neil on Jul 2, 2012 22:14:32 GMT -8
Don't know if this has been posted before, but at the beginning of this tape, there is a very brief shot of the Lady Alexandra steaming at Snug Cove. Then, a shot of people in front of the wheelhouse of another vessel- perhaps the Lady Sylvia? No more boat footage after that. Internet Archives is a great place to browse for ferry footage... just type ferry or ferries in 'moving pictures', and see what comes up. archive.org/details/BowenIsland |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 3, 2012 17:01:41 GMT -8
Don't know if this has been posted before, but at the beginning of this tape, there is a very brief shot of the Lady Alexandra steaming at Snug Cove. Then, a shot of people in front of the wheelhouse of another vessel- perhaps the Lady Sylvia? No more boat footage after that. Internet Archives is a great place to browse for ferry footage... just type ferry or ferries in 'moving pictures', and see what comes up. archive.org/details/BowenIslandThanks Neil. I noticed at least one of the Sannie passenger-ferries in that clip. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2012 21:50:07 GMT -8
A minor correction from an ex-Island Tugger. The Yellow and red barge belonged to Vancouver Tug. Island Tug barges were red and white. Van Tug and Island Tug merged to form Seaspan. Gulf of Georgia was absorbed later.
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