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Post by lancer on Jul 4, 2012 17:39:31 GMT -8
Don't know if this has been posted before, but at the beginning of this tape, there is a very brief shot of the Lady Alexandra steaming at Snug Cove. Then, a shot of people in front of the wheelhouse of another vessel- perhaps the Lady Sylvia? No more boat footage after that. Internet Archives is a great place to browse for ferry footage... just type ferry or ferries in 'moving pictures', and see what comes up. archive.org/details/BowenIslandThank you for the link. I just found another site: www.steamshipdays.comwhich has a series of Bowen Island pictures, including Lady Alexandra, which it would seem is to celebrate steamship days from July 7-15 on Bowen Island. The tune is catchy. One of the sponsors in Bowen Island Brewery, who I once wrote to suggesting they name one of their beers "Lady Alexandra". They do sell good beer though. Lancer |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 28, 2012 8:43:05 GMT -8
Union Steamship inspiration shown in a couple of paintings - Seen at the Powell River Museum by me on September 20, 2012. This first one is titled "Sunrise at Grief Point"  Close up  -----------------  |
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Post by paulvanb on Sept 28, 2012 11:31:04 GMT -8
From a 1969 publication by the Vancouver Real Estate Board, “Through Lions Gate.” General photographs credit in the book is to Ted Czolowski. I purchased the book for $3 at a local Rotary Club book sale, just for the interesting “back in the day” photos.  Looking closer beside the Bayshore hotel, is an ex Union Steamship moored. Seeing this in the photo, I remembered something I'd read in some of my USS books, and so I went to my bookshelf to find out which ship this is. - She is the Lady Alexandra and she was a restaurant during the 1960s.  I still have a copy of this book if someone wants it for their ferry book collection or archives. All I want for it is the postage. If interested, please message me through the forum.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 29, 2012 19:10:26 GMT -8
Davis Bay wharf (at Wilson Creek, south of Sechelt) was a Union Steamship stop. - see some history here: www.garylittle.ca/history/union.htmlHere is the wharf. The current-use part is the 1980s rebuild. The old part on the right side might be from latter years the old Union SteamShip era.  Info sign at the wharf  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 6, 2012 10:51:24 GMT -8
Union Steamship Cardena, in service, shown in this Bowen Island Archives photo:  ----------------- From the 1960s until present (and for the foreseeable future), the hulk of Cardena has been part of the breakwater at Kelsey Bay log sort & boat ramp. I've visited a few times before, seeing it from a distance from the public wharf and roadside, but yesterday was the first time that I went to the boat-ramp to see it up-close. And by up-close, I mean close enough to touch. Here are some distance shots, from the road leading to the boat ramp and from the ramp area:   The author and the hulk  (close-up photos to follow in the days ahead) |
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Post by mrdot on Oct 6, 2012 12:13:15 GMT -8
:)nice Cardina feature, make's me think it's time to get out my union s.s. sketches and memorabilia! :)mrdot.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 6, 2012 17:14:13 GMT -8
More of Cardena, at Kelsey Bay. - October 5, 2012. Full port-side view. - pardon the imperfect pano-stitch  View over midship to Johnstone Strait and the fog-bank in front of Hardwicke Island.  Mid ship  The curve of the hull and the morning reflection.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 7, 2012 14:07:24 GMT -8
Cardena's bow. - the bent white part at the top is the last surviving part of the white metal that was at the forecastle. (see photo that I posted, a few posts back of her original look).   --------------------------- I have a few more close-ups to post in the next few days. Why so many photos of a rusted old hulk? Because she is the Union Steamship CARDENA, and there are only a few West Coast ships of her era that are still existing, even in this poor form. Aside from the still-floating Lady Rose at Tofino and maybe the Catala's remains in Grey Harbor, how many Union or CP BCCS Steamships can we still see the remains of today? |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 7, 2012 20:28:27 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2012 8:10:59 GMT -8
Cardena's bent & rusted bow - I think that the anchor-pockets look like eyes on a fish.    Looking like an old-school goalie mask - with Michel Dion's Penguins mask, for comparison   Peeking around at the starboard side of the bow (photo shot by holding the tripod like a pole, and using a 5-second delay as I shot blindly around the corner)  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2012 18:28:22 GMT -8
Union Steamships brochure cover, from the "White Boat era" - seen at the Powell River museum.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2012 18:35:37 GMT -8
Some quirky close-ups of the Cardena's hulk. - from October 5, 2012. Anchor pocket with blue sky  ------------------- Her rubbing strake, with what I presume is very old wood falling apart inside:   ---------------------- Rivets on the steel bow:   ----------------- Hole at the water line: - with a piece of wood floating inside  ---------------------- Port side hull close-up  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 31, 2012 21:22:59 GMT -8
A compilation of video clips taken by me on a visit to the hulk of the Union Steamship Cardena.
- October 2012, at Kelsey Bay, BC
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Post by paulvanb on Nov 27, 2012 19:30:18 GMT -8
I was between games in my other life as a soccer referee in West Vancouver last Saturday, when I wandered over to Park Royal to grab some lunch when I saw this:  I am not sure if if this particular ship is the Lady Alexandra, the Catala, or if she is even part of the Union Steamship Co. The kiosk selling this and other period pieces is located on the south side of Park Royal towards Indigo at the east end. An excellent christmas gift for someone! |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 27, 2012 22:28:18 GMT -8
I was between games in my other life as a soccer referee in West Vancouver last Saturday, when I wandered over to Park Royal to grab some lunch when I saw this: I am not sure if if this particular ship is the Lady Alexandra, the Catala, or if she is even part of the Union Steamship Co. The kiosk selling this and other period pieces is located on the south side of Park Royal towards Indigo at the east end. An excellent christmas gift for someone! I've checked my Art Twigg book, and I believe this is either the Lady Cecilia or Lady Cynthia. - Lady Cynthia had a refit in 1940 or so to remove her 2nd stack, but this photo is obviously pre-1938 (lions gate bridge construction), so this ship could be the L'Cynthia. The key markings for these 2 ships are the square windows down the side of the ship, plus the placements of the boom crane and the aft mast. |
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Post by vanislandwoman on Dec 12, 2012 12:22:47 GMT -8
I'm starting research about our Kelsey Bay Wharf for Sayward Futures Society. A google search connected me to this website, and I'm enjoying the pics of Flugel Horn's visits to the Cardena over the years. I will be looking for info about the Union Steamships and other shipping that used the Kelsey Bay federal wharf.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 12, 2012 13:21:29 GMT -8
I'm starting research about our Kelsey Bay Wharf for Sayward Futures Society. A google search connected me to this website, and I'm enjoying the pics of Flugel Horn's visits to the Cardena over the years. I will be looking for info about the Union Steamships and other shipping that used the Kelsey Bay federal wharf. I'm glad that you found us here, and enjoyed those photos. In some of my reading about Union Steamships, I remember seeing stories about "coming into the Kelsey Bay wharf" and it being a bit tricky sometimes (for the ship). I'll dig out my Art Twigg book "Union Steamships Remembered" and see what I can find. |
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Post by WettCoast on Dec 15, 2012 22:30:14 GMT -8
Here is an old 1946 photo showing the Lady Alexandra at Bowen Island from BCFCapt's Flickr site: www.flickr.com/photos/64291666@N07/8262785877/in/photostream/For anyone who does not know, BCFCapt (Alex Loy) is a BC Ferries`captain based out of Swartz Bay, who is a regular master aboard the SoVI and sometimes the C-Cel. He is developing a superb Flickr photo site; one well worth spending some time on looking around at his postings of many archival photos from BC`s marine history. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 23, 2012 18:36:25 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Dec 23, 2012 20:05:12 GMT -8
If there isn't already, there should be a law, on both sides of the border, that any purchaser of any vessel which is not intended to operate under its own power must remove all fuel on board. It should be a condition of purchase. Too many hulks are bought by underfinanced people who are irresponsible- whether innocently or not- about the dangers these things pose to the environment. I wonder if the Lady Rose still has a load of bunker oil? She still has her TC registry, but I don't think the owners ever intend to operate her, and who knows what shape her hull is in now. |
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Post by captainjack on Dec 29, 2012 23:26:28 GMT -8
Flugel Horn, those are some great shots of the remains of the Cardena. Excellent video clips too, nice work! Was Union actually planning to install some 20mm Oerlikon anti-aircraft guns on her in 1942 to respond to the Japanese threat on the coast.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 6, 2013 16:59:50 GMT -8
Some Union Steamship items seen at Sointula BC. Here is a photo that I saw in a few places: on the wall in the Co-op store, and in a booklet in my cottage rental. - I'm going to say this is the CARDENA. Seems like her, based on funnel, wheelhouse, lifeboat and vent placements.  And here is some ephemera, from an era when Union was dying. I like the final sentence of this letter.  |
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Post by vanislandwoman on Jan 26, 2013 12:34:24 GMT -8
Well, I've come a little way in my search for info on ferries at Kelsey Bay. Coast Ferries and then BC Ferries ran in the 60's and 70's. Both the Lady Rose and the Island Princess (renamed North Island Princess) did the route. Prior to that I am sure I have heard that there were Union Steamships calling in at Kelsey Bay. I haven't been able to find more info yet, but I'm just at the beginning of this project. Is the book you mentioned available from libraries? I can't spend a lot of money on books for this project, but I do want to verify everything I can. Thanks for this forum, it is interesting to see what other people are interested in (or obsessed about  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jan 26, 2013 12:48:37 GMT -8
Well, I've come a little way in my search for info on ferries at Kelsey Bay. Coast Ferries and then BC Ferries ran in the 60's and 70's. Both the Lady Rose and the Island Princess (renamed North Island Princess) did the route. Prior to that I am sure I have heard that there were Union Steamships calling in at Kelsey Bay. I haven't been able to find more info yet, but I'm just at the beginning of this project. Is the book you mentioned available from libraries? I can't spend a lot of money on books for this project, but I do want to verify everything I can. Thanks for this forum, it is interesting to see what other people are interested in (or obsessed about Thanks for the update. Art Twigg's book on Union Steamships is out-of-print (it was a self published project), but some local libraries (maybe Campbell River, because that's where he lived, near the end of his life) might have it. Here are some links to our forum's threads, that might interest you: Some photos of Kelsey Bay wharf (like you've never seen this place before, haha.....) ferriesbc.proboards.com/post/132381/thread3 links of Some Island Princess photos and info: ferriesbc.proboards.com/post/61863linklink====================== And of course this isn't historical, but you obviously have seen this view from the Kelsey Bay wharf, on summer evenings: ferriesbc.proboards.com/post/132497/thread |
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 25, 2013 16:13:53 GMT -8
Today , I enjoyed the few Union Steamship references that were included in a show that I saw at Chemainus Theatre.
- "Good Timber" is a musical revue, where the songs are based on the poetry of the late Robert Swanson (of AirChime fame).
I was chatting with the show's creator in the lobby afterwards, and I told him how much I appreciated the references to the Union Steamships. He said that he wondered how many in the audience would understand what they meant by the "Southbound Cassiar".
Here's a promo video, that has a few Union Steamship references for you to find.
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