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Post by compdude787 on Apr 16, 2013 20:52:11 GMT -8
That would be true only if there were platform decks above every lane. There are some pictures a page back on this thread that show only two lanes have a platform deck above them. Compdude...the New West has a second actual car deck. She doesn't have platform decks.  Oops, I wasn't that clear. I meant the Queen of Burnaby, not the New West. I'll edit that post. |
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Post by Curtis on Apr 23, 2013 19:34:52 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby Arriving and Departing Westview on Sunday, April 21 st, 2013. All Photos are © CS16 Photography and may only be used with Permission from the Owner.Arrival.  Queen of Burnaby by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby Docking at Westview by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby Docking at Westview by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby Docked at Westview by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Departure.  Queen of Burnaby Departing Westview by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby Departing Westview by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby by CS16 Photography, on Flickr That's All For Now. |
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Post by compdude787 on Apr 23, 2013 20:58:13 GMT -8
Wow, the Burnaby has gotten so rusty! When will she get painted? Let's hope she receives another coat of paint before retirement.
Well, I must say that several WSF ferries have been even more rusty than that, but the Burnaby is the Shame of Comox. The NIP is just as rusty (or perhaps even more so) and she's the shame of Blubber bay. Both are the Shames of Powell River!
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Post by Nick on Apr 25, 2013 14:32:02 GMT -8
Wow, the Burnaby has gotten so rusty! When will she get painted? Let's hope she receives another coat of paint before retirement. Well, I must say that several WSF ferries have been even more rusty than that, but the Burnaby is the Shame of Comox. The NIP is just as rusty (or perhaps even more so) and she's the shame of Blubber bay. Both are the Shames of Powell River! Just an FYI: The rust you see on the Burnaby and the Nanaimo are from the scupper drains from the outer decks. It's small particles of rust that are picked up by rain/seawater on the outer decks and draining down the side of the ship. It's like a dirt stain... the paint underneath is perfectly fine. The problem is the grip coating on the deck is cracking and exposing the steel underneath. Considering the cost of taking a ship out of service and painting it, I'm perfectly happy to see them run around for a while with some rust stains. It makes no difference to the operations, it makes ZERO impact to the safety of the ship, and it's being retired in 3 years anyway. |
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 25, 2013 21:46:52 GMT -8
Wow, the Burnaby has gotten so rusty! When will she get painted? Let's hope she receives another coat of paint before retirement. Well, I must say that several WSF ferries have been even more rusty than that, but the Burnaby is the Shame of Comox. The NIP is just as rusty (or perhaps even more so) and she's the shame of Blubber bay. Both are the Shames of Powell River! Just an FYI: The rust you see on the Burnaby and the Nanaimo are from the scupper drains from the outer decks. It's small particles of rust that are picked up by rain/seawater on the outer decks and draining down the side of the ship. It's like a dirt stain... the paint underneath is perfectly fine. The problem is the grip coating on the deck is cracking and exposing the steel underneath. Considering the cost of taking a ship out of service and painting it, I'm perfectly happy to see them run around for a while with some rust stains. It makes no difference to the operations, it makes ZERO impact to the safety of the ship, and it's being retired in 3 years anyway. Actually Nick, not to sound anal or anything, but most of the deck 4 and 5 scuppers drain out right along the top edge of the rubbing strake. You can make out some of the locations of where they are based on the rust streaks maybe 4 feet above the rubbing strake, and that streaking is even pretty minor comparison to the rest of the tumblehome. The rust streaks always look pretty dramatic, but it's all of the edgeing around the car deck ventilation fan intakes and exhaust vents. Plus the fish plate edgeing along the decks is rusting, and streaking down the side of the ship. Again, it does look very dramatic. |
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Post by Nick on Apr 26, 2013 7:36:29 GMT -8
Just an FYI: The rust you see on the Burnaby and the Nanaimo are from the scupper drains from the outer decks. It's small particles of rust that are picked up by rain/seawater on the outer decks and draining down the side of the ship. It's like a dirt stain... the paint underneath is perfectly fine. The problem is the grip coating on the deck is cracking and exposing the steel underneath. Considering the cost of taking a ship out of service and painting it, I'm perfectly happy to see them run around for a while with some rust stains. It makes no difference to the operations, it makes ZERO impact to the safety of the ship, and it's being retired in 3 years anyway. Actually Nick, not to sound anal or anything, but most of the deck 4 and 5 scuppers drain out right along the top edge of the rubbing strake. You can make out some of the locations of where they are based on the rust streaks maybe 4 feet above the rubbing strake, and that streaking is even pretty minor comparison to the rest of the tumblehome. The rust streaks always look pretty dramatic, but it's all of the edgeing around the car deck ventilation fan intakes and exhaust vents. Plus the fish plate edgeing along the decks is rusting, and streaking down the side of the ship. Again, it does look very dramatic. Thanks, Chris. I always thought the scuppers drained out just below the edge of the deck. Anyway, it's all cosmetic. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 28, 2013 12:35:18 GMT -8
We don't have enough Queen of Burnaby photos from the 5:34am time slot, so here are a couple from today. - I'm on the beach at the end of Singing Sands Mileage Photo Road. These are 8-second time exposures.   (Yes Oceaneer, these are kinda similar to what I posted on August 25, 2012, but these are a bit earlier before sunrise than those August photos) |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 28, 2013 18:21:29 GMT -8
3 stills and a video of the elderly, but still reigning, Queen of Burnaby. - she celebrates her golden-jubilee in 2015. ==================== My vantage point is the beach at the end of Singing Sands Rd. (you can find it on Google Maps if you want to go there yourself. Street-view will even show you what the ditches and stop-signs look like). - It is very close to Little River ferry terminal. These items are from April 28, 2013. Dawn, gazing inside. - next time that I do this, I'll walk further down the beach towards the ferry-terminal, to get a perfect "down the car deck" angle.  Departing at 6:30am, and the sun is shining. - an interesting thing about the sun is that it tends to brighten things up.   =================== Video compilation of her 6:30am departure from Little River - 3 different speeds shown |
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Post by princessofvanfan on Apr 28, 2013 20:27:15 GMT -8
:'(3 years left for the Nanny and the Burnaby. Gonna have to try to make the last sailing of at least one of them.
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Post by SolDuc on Apr 28, 2013 22:18:37 GMT -8
3 stills and a video of the elderly, but still reigning, Queen of Burnaby. - she celebrates her golden-jubilee in 2015. ==================== My vantage point is the beach at the end of Singing Sands Rd. (you can find it on Google Maps if you want to go there yourself. Street-view will even show you what the ditches and stop-signs look like). - It is very close to Little River ferry terminal. These items are from April 28, 2013. Dawn, gazing inside. - next time that I do this, I'll walk further down the beach towards the ferry-terminal, to get a perfect "down the car deck" angle. [pic] Departing at 6:30am, and the sun is shining. - an interesting thing about the sun is that it tends to brighten things up. [pic] [pic] =================== Video compilation of her 6:30am departure from Little River - 3 different speeds shown Interesting to see that the aft doors are still open apparently a while after the ship is underway. -is this a regular action done on this route, or is there Herald of Free Entreprise-type concerns that must have them shut, but only later? -if the aft doors do happen to be open on some sailings, is it the same with the other "doored" vessels? |
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Post by Mike C on Apr 29, 2013 7:29:31 GMT -8
Interesting to see that the aft doors are still open apparently a while after the ship is underway. -is this a regular action done on this route, or is there Herald of Free Entreprise-type concerns that must have them shut, but only later? -if the aft doors do happen to be open on some sailings, is it the same with the other "doored" vessels? The aft doors are typically left open during the spring summer months on Route 17. This is for ventilation. The aft doors are sometimes left open on the New Westminster and Nanaimo as well, but not as frequently. This is not a practice done on any other closed deck vessel in the fleet. |
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 29, 2013 8:35:56 GMT -8
Interesting to see that the aft doors are still open apparently a while after the ship is underway. -is this a regular action done on this route, or is there Herald of Free Entreprise-type concerns that must have them shut, but only later? -if the aft doors do happen to be open on some sailings, is it the same with the other "doored" vessels? The aft doors are typically left open during the spring summer months on Route 17. This is for ventilation. The aft doors are sometimes left open on the New Westminster and Nanaimo as well, but not as frequently. This is not a practice done on any other closed deck vessel in the fleet. In my recollection the single ended Spaulding vessels (V's, B's & Sidney class) have been routinely operated with the rear car deck doors opened since perhaps day 1 in 1960; certainly from the 1970's anyways. In the fall & winter, however, my recollection is that they were closed.
Update: I have photos going back to 1969 showing the rear doors opened with the ship underway, and well away from any terminal. I can say that the doors are more likely to be opened in warm & calm weather, but I have a Christmas day 1979 photo of the Q. of Vancouver in Active Pass with the doors opened.  Queen of Vancouver - Swartz Bay Bound - in Active Pass off Galiano Island shoreline - 25 December 1979 [Photo © JST] by Wett Coast, on Flickr
More recent photos (2008 to the present) show that these doors are usually closed, even in mid summer. I couldn't find any post-1980's photo of the Nanaimo with its doors opened (except at Long Harbour), but then the Nanaimo has those large 'windows' in the doors, and they are opened most of the time. Perhaps Chris can tell us if the Nanaimo ever operates at sea with the rear doors opened. |
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Post by Ferryman on Apr 29, 2013 13:45:49 GMT -8
These days it's generally frowned upon to leave the Stern Doors open. I think there was a directive stating specifically to leave the stern doors closed on the Queen of Nanaimo while at sea. Back in the day they were allowed to stay open for extra ventilation while at sea. Over the past few years, the ventilation has been substantially upgraded, along with the openings cut out on the stern doors and the added natural ventilation near the bow which has always been a unique feature on the Nanaimo. That being said, the doors are allowed to be open while in dock during loading and unloading of course, but someone must remember to close them before the ship departs.
Sometimes on the really hot days I've seen the New West leave the stern doors open, even as recent as last summer while we would always wish we could do the same. Needless to say, it's a bit of a frustrating inconsistency, however it's becoming less and less frequent.
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Post by princessofvanfan on Apr 29, 2013 20:01:02 GMT -8
The 7 sisters always had the rear doors open while underway in the 70's and early 80's. The Princess of Van didn't have rear doors at all, I don't think, unless they were well inside the rail deck.
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Post by Mill Bay on Apr 30, 2013 8:58:19 GMT -8
That's odd, because pretty much every trip I've made on the Burnaby they have always had the stern doors open. Of course they were mostly in summer, and I am not nearly a regular on that route. I'm also surprised there is no concern about the New West pulling herself down by the stern if the doors were left open. She usually appears to look a little stern heavy. Then again, the doors aren't exactly watertight.
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Post by Curtis on Apr 30, 2013 10:16:56 GMT -8
It appears to be regular practice on Route 17 to sail with the Burnaby's Stern Doors Open. The only time I ever see them closed is usually in winter when there are rough seas and/or stormy weather. Open Stern Doors was also a regular practice on Route 17 (and 7) when the Sidney and Tsawwassen were around.
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Post by Curtis on May 20, 2013 11:02:55 GMT -8
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Post by Mike C on May 20, 2013 19:18:30 GMT -8
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Post by DENelson83 on Jun 2, 2013 20:21:26 GMT -8
Here's a video:
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Post by Neil on Jun 2, 2013 21:15:56 GMT -8
Should be a warning attached: 'Do not watch on full screen if prone to motion sickness.'  |
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Post by DENelson83 on Jun 2, 2013 21:51:43 GMT -8
Should be a warning attached: 'Do not watch on full screen if prone to motion sickness.' Yeah, I tried to keep the camera stable enough, but obviously I didn't succeed. I don't yet have a tripod, and I don't like to stabilize videos in post-pro. *shrug* |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 2, 2013 22:18:34 GMT -8
Should be a warning attached: 'Do not watch on full screen if prone to motion sickness.' Yeah, I tried to keep the camera stable enough, but obviously I didn't succeed. I don't yet have a tripod, and I don't like to stabilize videos in post-pro. *shrug* A good tripod substitute is a log, or the top of a fence or railing. - of course, the wind (like you had for your video) doesn't help. But thanks for shooting and uploading and posting that. Little River is a great spot for that, because of the various angles to be had by walking up and down the beach. |
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Post by DENelson83 on Jun 2, 2013 23:35:06 GMT -8
A good tripod substitute is a log, or the top of a fence or railing. And indeed I did perch my camera on the top of a chain-link fence. My arm was in pins and needles while I tried to hold the darn thing still. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 9, 2013 21:06:47 GMT -8
The sunset colours enhance the beauty of the Queen of Burnaby's rust marks. - seen June 8, 2013 from Marine Drive in Powell River. - with the patient North Island Princess in the background, waiting to use the berth. - and with CCGS VECTOR at the Westview dock (just behind the ferry ramp)   ------------ I filmed 90 minutes of this "Westview evening dance" which takes place every evening when the NIP ferry arrives and discharges traffic, and then floats around and waits while Burnaby comes in and does her things and then departs. - I'll get the sped-up video of this done, later this week. I've also got some more photos to process and post of this sunset dance. It was a lot of fun to witness and to film. |
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 9, 2013 21:49:13 GMT -8
The Burnaby is again looking in serious need of TLC. Will she get anything prior to the main tourist season? |
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