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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Jun 10, 2013 9:58:21 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 10, 2013 16:19:54 GMT -8
A couple of Q'Burnaby images from Sunday June 9, 2013, seen from the wharf at Westview. Arriving at 11:30am.  Heading towards Comox on her Noon sailing. - with the North Island Princess, and plenty of pleasure craft.  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 10, 2013 20:31:16 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby at sunset on June 8, 2013. - Westview (Powell River). With North Island Princess.   ------------------- VIDEO of the entire 90-minute sunset/dusk sequence (sped up, of course). 3 different parts of the video. 1) Entire sequence, sped-up 50x 2) Entire sequence, sped-up 10x (that's what the subtitles were geared for). 3) Real-speed sequence of Burnaby's departure and NIP's departure. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 11, 2013 5:55:45 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby video compilation, from June 8-9, 2013.
- shore view of arrival at Little River
- shore view of arrival & departure at Westview.
- on-board and shore views of the rope toss from bow to dolphin during Westview arrivals
- comparison of 2 different soundings of her horn (sounds a bit different from one sailing to the next)
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 11, 2013 15:26:25 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby, seen by me on June 8, 2013. Approaching Little River. - I was hanging around near the terminal cat (a white cat, in case anyone else has met "L.R." the cat)  View of Comox coast. - picture frame is courtesy of Phil.  Car deck is partly full on a Saturday 10:10am sailing from Comox. - outer lanes only used  Ferry on a leash, at Westview  |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 11, 2013 16:50:21 GMT -8
Allow me to put a couple of items together, to see if they are the same issue. Exhibit 1: from page #15 of this: foi.bcferries.com/Intermediate_Class_Ferry_Application.pdfExhibit 2: - my sped-up video of a route-17 round trip. check out the wobbly course-direction on the 100x sped-up version at the start of this video. The 100x video is a bit tough to watch on the trip towards Comox (from 0:50 to 1:30 on my video), because the ship is so unsteady in her direction. There was no marine traffic that we were trying to avoid. - Does this look like a ship with a steering problem?================ I'm no expert. Is what my video shows (the wobbly course-changing ship) related to what is said in the report? - what do others think? |
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Post by Nick on Jun 11, 2013 17:30:24 GMT -8
I'm not an expert either, but I'll weigh in with an opinion.
A pitch control problem could cause an imbalance of thrust between the two propellers. This could give the ship a tendency to want to turn, requiring counter-helm to compensate. If it was a constant issue ie. the difference in pitch is constant, theoretically the quartermaster could provide a set amount of counter-helm and maintain a relatively straight course. If it's a true control problem, and the pitch is varying intermittently, it could theoretically cause the inconsistent heading shown in the video, because the quartermaster is constantly having to change the helm. I'm not familiar with the method of pitch control employed so I couldn't even guess as to possible problems. The last ship I was on had electronic control systems for pitch... I highly doubt the B class use electronics.
There are many other factors that could be at play as well. Environmental effects, such as wind, waves, current etc have a huge effect on the steering of the ship.
I just tried to look up the QoBurnaby to see if she has any conditions of class, indicating a machinery defect, but it seems she's registered with Lloyd's Register, which doesn't publish a list online.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 14, 2013 5:37:48 GMT -8
I wasn't happy with the speeds of the version of my sped-up video of "Powell River ferry sunset." 100x was too fast and 10x was too slow, for my liking. So I've done a new one at 25x speed.
- I like this speed better, in a Goldilocks type of way.
Here it is, featuring North Island Princess and Queen of Burnaby, from June 8 2013.
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Post by Mike C on Jun 15, 2013 23:41:35 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 25, 2013 15:50:42 GMT -8
On September 8, 2012, I photographed the test deployment of the Queen of Burnaby's life saving system. Those photos are posted earlier in this thread, from that date.
- I wanted to see how my many photos would look in a true time-lapse collage, and so I used my software to create that. Because I didn't shoot the photos with the experienced idea of using them for a time-lapse, the result is a bit jumpy at times, with different zooms.
But it is a neat effect. Most of the photos appear for 0.5 seconds each.
This was 90 minutes of work for me, on my computer today.
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Post by Curtis on Jul 4, 2013 13:58:16 GMT -8
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Post by Mike C on Jul 5, 2013 19:33:20 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 17, 2013 17:32:57 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby looking lovely for the summer tourist season. - Seen at Little River on July 17, 2013.   |
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Post by Curtis on Jul 25, 2013 10:03:01 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby on the Morning of July 20 th, 2013. Warning: Photo Heavy!
All Photos are © CS16 Photography and may only be used with Permission from the Owner. Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Queen of Burnaby on Approach at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr and One Picture from Aboard...  Deck 5, Sun Deck Aft, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr That's All For Now. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 25, 2013 10:42:06 GMT -8
Shame on you BC Ferries! Or route 17 crew they should look after the Burnaby better!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 25, 2013 20:29:38 GMT -8
Excerpt from the Ferry Commissioner's report approving the replacement of the Queen of Burnaby.
- the relevant item here is the last part of this quote, re the reason why so many 'Burnaby sailings are cancelled by weather.
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Post by princessofvanfan on Jul 25, 2013 21:57:38 GMT -8
Hope they give the old girl one last paint job, so she can end her days with some dignity. Not likely, I suspect.
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Post by Mike C on Jul 25, 2013 23:00:10 GMT -8
Hope they give the old girl one last paint job, so she can end her days with some dignity. Not likely, I suspect. The Burnaby will be going into dry-dock during this upcoming refit season. It is likely that she will receive some touch-ups in her worst places, however it probably won't be extensive. |
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Post by compdude787 on Jul 29, 2013 9:44:24 GMT -8
Hope they give the old girl one last paint job, so she can end her days with some dignity. Not likely, I suspect. The Burnaby will be going into dry-dock during this upcoming refit season. It is likely that she will receive some touch-ups in her worst places, however it probably won't be extensive. That's good, a touch up is better than no paint at all. What vessel will replace the Burnaby during its refit? The I-Sky? |
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Post by Curtis on Jul 29, 2013 11:43:16 GMT -8
vessel will replace the Burnaby during its refit? The I-Sky? As much as it pains me to think about it, you are correct. |
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Post by Koastal Karl on Jul 29, 2013 12:56:15 GMT -8
An open deck ferry in open water really makes sence! Wouldent the Chilllwack be a better replacement?
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Post by compdude787 on Jul 29, 2013 13:15:29 GMT -8
An open deck ferry in open water really makes sence! Wouldent the Chilllwack be a better replacement? I think BC Ferries might be doing this to prove that the I-Sky actually can handle rough seas. It will demonstrate its magical abilities to keep waves off the car deck.  Actually, when I emailed BCF with comments about the new intermediate ferries and mentioned the fallacies of having an open-decked ferry on a route across the Strait of Georgia, they replied to my comment and explained that the I-Sky's hull is designed so that it repels waves from the car deck. They even mentioned that they took the I-Sky out in the Strait in 55-knot winds and no waves came up on the car deck. I'm kind of skeptical about that, and won't believe any claims about the Island Sky's seakeeping abilities until I see it in action. Even if the I-Sky can handle rough seas as well as BCF says, I still think that its future sisters should have full-height doors on each end just to give drivers some extra peace of mind and reassurance that their cars won't get any saltwater spray on them. I'm glad the ferry commissioner encouraged BCF to have bow/stern doors on the new ICFs when he approved their application. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jul 29, 2013 13:55:37 GMT -8
An open deck ferry in open water really makes sence! Wouldent the Chilllwack be a better replacement? I think BC Ferries might be doing this to prove that the I-Sky actually can handle rough seas. It will demonstrate its magical abilities to keep waves off the car deck. Actually, when I emailed BCF with comments about the new intermediate ferries and mentioned the fallacies of having an open-decked ferry on a route across the Strait of Georgia, they replied to my comment and explained that the I-Sky's hull is designed so that it repels waves from the car deck. They even mentioned that they took the I-Sky out in the Strait in 55-knot winds and no waves came up on the car deck. I'm kind of skeptical about that, and won't believe any claims about the Island Sky's seakeeping abilities until I see it in action. Even if the I-Sky can handle rough seas as well as BCF says, I still think that its future sisters should have full-height doors on each end just to give drivers some extra peace of mind and reassurance that their cars won't get any saltwater spray on them. I'm glad the ferry commissioner encouraged BCF to have bow/stern doors on the new ICFs when he approved their application. I agree with you about BC Ferries showing the Island Sky design can be safe in rough seas. I think the design will have bigger side walls like the Queen of the Islands. |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Aug 16, 2013 11:50:38 GMT -8
Afternoon arrival of Queen of Burnaby at Little River. - July 17, 2013, seen from Singing Sands beach. Photo planned to show the vessel stern profile as well as the berth structure and sign.  |
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Post by Curtis on Sept 1, 2013 10:03:26 GMT -8
Here are some Long Overdue pictures from the Last Month of the Queen of Burnaby. Warning: Photo Heavy!
All Photos are © CS16 Photography and may only be used with Permission from the Owner.We begin at the Westview Viewpoint South of the Westview Terminal. Notice anything different?   Queen of Burnaby Approaching Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Approaching the Westview Berth.  Queen of Burnaby Approaching Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr A more overall view of Westview Terminal and the surrounding area.  Queen of Burnaby Docking at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Now we move on to the Late-Night Round-Trip the Queen of Burnaby did half a month ago. I will say I was expecting more of a crowd on the trip back, but that wasn't the case as only 13 Vehicles were aboard the 10:30 Sailing. Boarding  Boarding the Queen of Burnaby at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr One good thing that came out of this trip was I got some practice doing nighttime photography with a tripod. It ranged from pictures in the dark like this here.  Deck 5, Port Aft Sun Deck, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr To long exposures like the two below.  Funnel, Queen of Burnaby by CS16 Photography, on Flickr The lights of Little River.  Deck 4, Fo'c'sle, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Docked at Little River prior to the 10:30 sailing back to Powell River.  Queen of Burnaby Docked at Little River. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Once back aboard I focused on the Car Deck.  Deck 2 Stern Doors, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Deck 2 Car Deck, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Deck 2 Car Deck, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Then back up top for more Long Exposures. The Lights of Powell River.  Deck 4, Sun Deck Forward, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr No need for Flash Here...  Deck 4, Fo'c'sle, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Then our approach began.  Deck 4, Fo'c'sle, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr  Deck 4 Fo'c'sle, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Back in Westview.  Queen of Burnaby Docked at Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr And away they go with a load of 3 Vehicles.  Queen of Burnaby Departing Westview. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr A few days later I was back abaord the Burnaby. Here are a few quick highlights to end this post. While they did paint her sides, they did neglect her Funnel...  Funnel, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Her bell is looking nice.  Ship's Bell, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr As is her Coat of Arms.  BC Coat of Arms, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr Finally one more from the Fo'c'sle.  Deck 4 Fo'c'sle, Queen of Burnaby. by CS16 Photography, on Flickr That's all for now. |
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