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Post by Low Light Mike on Nov 29, 2021 11:57:11 GMT -8
And today's ending-destination looks to be Union Bay (off of Glover Road), which is likely where the Miller Freeman ship was (or still is). Map Link HERE
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Post by Neil on Nov 29, 2021 12:04:32 GMT -8
From the Denman Island facebook page: "Isn't it just like stupid BC Ferries to taunt us by sailing a perfectly good big ferry right by that stupid cable abomination that they stick us with. And they can even afford to have it escorted by tugs!" Just kidding. But it wouldn't surprise me.
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Post by FNS on Nov 29, 2021 12:16:13 GMT -8
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Post by FNS on Nov 29, 2021 12:44:42 GMT -8
The tug INLET RUSTLER has entered the picture and a small cargo vessel with crane SEA ROAMER is closing in.
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Post by Starsteward on Nov 29, 2021 13:20:26 GMT -8
The tug INLET RUSTLER has entered the picture and a small cargo vessel with crane SEA ROAMER is closing in. Hmm, BC Ferries is pulling a rather 'cheeky' slight of hand today, methinks. New artwork announcement for the Salish Heron and move 'rust-bucket Burnaby' to a scrapper in our backyard who has 'already' come under some local scrutiny for messing up the natural environment. Nothing like 'corporate stupidity' eh?
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Post by FNS on Nov 29, 2021 14:20:08 GMT -8
The tugs SST SALISH and SST ORCA have left the scene. The tugs INLET CRUSADER and INLET RUSTLER as well as the SEA ROAMER are finishing up the process of mooring the QUEEN OF BURNABY.
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Post by FNS on Nov 29, 2021 15:12:22 GMT -8
And, here's the site. Both former NOAA ships SURVEYOR and MILLER FREEMAN are spotted in this Google Earth pic. I've been aboard both of those. Cool ships. The SURVEYOR was steam powered. The MILLER FREEMAN was designed by Mr Phil Spaulding. I guess their post career usefulness is over as well as , maybe, the QUEEN OF BURNABY's.
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Post by timmyc on Nov 30, 2021 12:12:34 GMT -8
Noting that BCF hasn't confirmed it as the scrapping site - from the bottom of the article: BC Ferries said it is evaluating proposals to recycle the ship, and expects to reach an agreement with a reputable company. In the meantime, to make room for other vessels that require service in Richmond, BC Ferries engaged a towing company to move the Queen of Burnaby by tug to a temporary moorage site this side of the water while a sale agreement is reached.
“BC Ferries is committed to protecting the environment and has an arrangement with a local company to conduct periodic inspections of the vessel,” it said in a statement. “Out of an abundance of caution, the ship will have a generator and pumps on board should any major issue arise, and spill response equipment is nearby.”
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Post by aidanperret on Dec 5, 2021 17:08:53 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Dec 5, 2021 17:12:34 GMT -8
Here is my set of images from today of the Queen of Burnaby in Union Bay. Welcome aboard here, Aidan. I love this image
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Post by aidanperret on Dec 27, 2021 15:52:07 GMT -8
Queen of Burnaby arriving at Westview January 2017.
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Post by Ollie on May 2, 2022 21:03:02 GMT -8
Is Queen of Burnaby still at Union Bay?
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Post by Ferryman on May 2, 2022 22:47:27 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on May 2, 2022 22:54:16 GMT -8
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Post by Ferryman on May 12, 2022 10:48:48 GMT -8
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Post by northwesterner on May 12, 2022 15:42:45 GMT -8
Incredible quote here from BC Ferries basically acknowledging what we already knew - there are few (no) shipbreakers in first-world countries that meet first-world environmental standards. This is why ships usually get sold to a salvage company who hauls them to Mexico or India where they are broken up, in compliance with developing world environmental standards. These standards are quite poor. At some point, the BC gov't is going to have to come to terms with either hanging on to this derelict, inoperable vessel indefinitely, or just move on and sell it to a salvage company.
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Post by Neil on May 12, 2022 19:30:22 GMT -8
Incredible quote here from BC Ferries basically acknowledging what we already knew - there are few (no) shipbreakers in first-world countries that meet first-world environmental standards. This is why ships usually get sold to a salvage company who hauls them to Mexico or India where they are broken up, in compliance with developing world environmental standards. These standards are quite poor. At some point, the BC gov't is going to have to come to terms with either hanging on to this derelict, inoperable vessel indefinitely, or just move on and sell it to a salvage company. They did sell it, four years ago, but the sale fell through. Maybe with scrap prices being higher now, they might have more success getting rid of her. It's really too bad that there is no operation in Washington or Alaska states, or BC, where a vessel of this size could be properly rendered down.
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Post by elwharust on May 13, 2022 14:03:38 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on May 13, 2022 17:09:58 GMT -8
Okay, I'll bite... one what?
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Post by elwharust on May 14, 2022 10:13:58 GMT -8
Okay, I'll bite... one what? sorry, i was a bit tired when i posted that and for some reason my mind was mixing up deas with ensenada, oops. so i was referring to the new west being the last of all the v/b class
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Post by FNS on May 15, 2022 0:41:30 GMT -8
Okay, I'll bite... one what? sorry, i was a bit tired when i posted that and for some reason my mind was mixing up deas with ensenada, oops. so i was referring to the new west being the last of all the v/b class Yes, the QUEEN OF NEW WESTMINSTER is the last of the seven which can carry passengers. At the time of this posting, and as we enter another Sunday here on our coast, the QUEEN OF NANAIMO is the only one of the seven spinning at least one screw at this hour as she's running half speed ahead from the Fijian town of Suva to India (averaging 8 or 9 knots). Can the QUEEN OF BURNABY still spin hers?
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Post by timmyc on May 22, 2022 15:12:46 GMT -8
Incredible quote here from BC Ferries basically acknowledging what we already knew - there are few (no) shipbreakers in first-world countries that meet first-world environmental standards. This is why ships usually get sold to a salvage company who hauls them to Mexico or India where they are broken up, in compliance with developing world environmental standards. These standards are quite poor. At some point, the BC gov't is going to have to come to terms with either hanging on to this derelict, inoperable vessel indefinitely, or just move on and sell it to a salvage company. I wonder why none of our east coast shipbreakers bid for it, given they have the capacity to breakdown ships as large as our navy's old supply ships: capebretonspectator.com/2018/01/31/marine-recycling-hmcs-athabaskan/Perhaps they're still busy with breaking down their existing commitments.
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Post by FNS on May 22, 2022 16:28:49 GMT -8
Incredible quote here from BC Ferries basically acknowledging what we already knew - there are few (no) shipbreakers in first-world countries that meet first-world environmental standards. This is why ships usually get sold to a salvage company who hauls them to Mexico or India where they are broken up, in compliance with developing world environmental standards. These standards are quite poor. At some point, the BC gov't is going to have to come to terms with either hanging on to this derelict, inoperable vessel indefinitely, or just move on and sell it to a salvage company. I wonder why none of our east coast shipbreakers bid for it, given they have the capacity to breakdown ships as large as our navy's old supply ships: capebretonspectator.com/2018/01/31/marine-recycling-hmcs-athabaskan/Perhaps they're still busy with breaking down their existing commitments. Perhaps the cost of towing this ship all the way down the west coast of North America, waiting and passing through the Panama Canal, and up past the alligator state to the Atlantic side. She may need to have an operable generator for her anchor mechanism. Add to this the nav lights. I've been watching the progress of the QUEEN OF NANAIMO's voyage to Alang India from Suva Fiji. She has dropped her hook at three locations. One for fueling near Singapore and the other two for crew rest, I think, and maybe some food restocking for their cook to prepare their meals. Or fishing for their suppers.
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Post by timmyc on May 22, 2022 20:56:22 GMT -8
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 23, 2022 6:37:03 GMT -8
A cool video showing an ariel view of Deas including the Queen of Burnaby for anyone who’s interested!
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