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Post by Ferryman on Apr 9, 2018 15:07:36 GMT -8
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Post by Mike on Apr 9, 2018 19:14:35 GMT -8
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Post by Dane on Apr 18, 2018 20:04:16 GMT -8
The Eagle sailed out of Swartz Bay today - I came to post that as a first for the Salish class but as I type an recalling the Route 9 schedule summer 2017 would have had Salish class departures from Swartz Bay.
So this post is a lot less interesting but still an unusual occurrence caused by a training incident on the Cumberland cancelling her day's sailings.
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Post by Brandon S on Apr 19, 2018 12:47:43 GMT -8
The Eagle sailed out of Swartz Bay today - I came to post that as a first for the Salish class but as I type an recalling the Route 9 schedule summer 2017 would have had Salish class departures from Swartz Bay. So this post is a lot less interesting but still an unusual occurrence caused by a training incident on the Cumberland cancelling her day's sailings. Hope to head out to SWB tomorrow to get some shots, and possibly go for a ride. |
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Apr 27, 2018 20:33:53 GMT -8
Salish Eagle leaving Swartz Bay for the lasting sailing, of her day, heading to the Southern Gulf Islands. I am posting these photos because it is rare to see her servicing the Swartz Bay to Southern Gulf Island route.  Salish Eagle by Blue Bus Fan, on Flickr  Salish Eagle by Blue Bus Fan, on Flickr
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Post by gulfislandkayaker on May 9, 2018 8:18:20 GMT -8
The Cumberlands recent issues provided for an interesting visual during the infamous Mayne Transfer process recently - I wonder how many hundreds (thousands?) of times I have done this thing now.  I'll sheepishly admit that I was driving while I snapped the first of the two pics here - made necessary because they had us drive off the Eagle and right onto the Raven without any downtime in the car lanes. That's something that RARELY happened when the Nanaimo was on the route. What a lovely day too....I stayed on the outside decks of the Raven for the entirety of the run from Mayne to Tsawwassen.   |
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Post by Neil on May 18, 2018 20:13:03 GMT -8
A service notice this evening referred to a sailing delay, partly attributable to the Salish Eagle having an "over committed passenger count".
This is going to be an ongoing and likely an increasing problem, given that these three Salish vessels were basically underbuilt, in terms of both vehicle and passenger capacity. The previous government's penny pinching is going to be seen, in the long run, as false economy.
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Post by Starsteward on May 19, 2018 6:56:49 GMT -8
A service notice this evening referred to a sailing delay, partly attributable to the Salish Eagle having an "over committed passenger count". This is going to be an ongoing and likely an increasing problem, given that these three Salish vessels were basically underbuilt, in terms of both vehicle and passenger capacity. The previous government's penny pinching is going to be seen, in the long run, as false economy. 'Neil', you've got to be kidding! eh? |
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Post by WettCoast on May 23, 2018 7:47:48 GMT -8
A service notice this evening referred to a sailing delay, partly attributable to the Salish Eagle having an "over committed passenger count". This is going to be an ongoing and likely an increasing problem, given that these three Salish vessels were basically underbuilt, in terms of both vehicle and passenger capacity. The previous government's penny pinching is going to be seen, in the long run, as false economy. See this news article form the CBC. I see a not far off day when these vessels sail back to Poland to have their passenger spaces enlarged. I think BC Ferries made a bit of a 'screw up' in going with a passenger capacity significantly less than what they had with the previous vessel. |
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Post by westernflyer on May 23, 2018 8:57:11 GMT -8
A service notice this evening referred to a sailing delay, partly attributable to the Salish Eagle having an "over committed passenger count". This is going to be an ongoing and likely an increasing problem, given that these three Salish vessels were basically underbuilt, in terms of both vehicle and passenger capacity. The previous government's penny pinching is going to be seen, in the long run, as false economy. See this news article form the CBC. I see a not far off day when these vessels sail back to Poland to have their passenger spaces enlarged. I think BC Ferries made a bit of a 'screw up' in going with a passenger capacity significantly less than what they had with the previous vessel. I don't see how the Salish Class could be modified to significantly increase passenger capacity. Maybe the next Salish coming will be an elongated version with increased overall capacity for route 9, and we'll see one of the existing vessels utilized elsewhere. |
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Post by rwbsparks on May 23, 2018 10:29:30 GMT -8
Short term penny pinching gets far more expensive in the long run. Just take a look at the KDTs and Issaquah class. We went cheap and as a result ended up spending way more. This is something I was worried would be the case when the Salish class was being designed. Off the shelf designs are cheaper to build, but they aren’t usually the best boats for the job. This has been made very obvious for WSF with the KDTs being too small for Port Townsend and way overbuilt for Point Defiance. I just don’t see where the Salish class can be modified to increase pax count and the car deck likely can’t be expanded save for platform decks.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 23, 2018 18:13:24 GMT -8
I personally think that BC Ferries should eliminate the crew sleeping quarters to increase capacity since the vessels could easily head back to the home terminal, can transfer during day lights to Southern Gulf Island, and Comox to or from Deas maintenance terminal.
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Post by Brandon S on May 23, 2018 19:35:09 GMT -8
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Post by gulfislandkayaker on May 24, 2018 9:20:37 GMT -8
What's even better with these new ferries and the relative lack of passenger capacity is the necessity to make foot passenger reservations to ensure you are not left behind - I wouldn't have too much issue with this if there was an online method to booking these - instead, one must spend 30 to 45 minutes on hold waiting for a "customer service" agent to come on the line. I have done this several times so far this year....and it's not even busy season yet.  |
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Post by yvr on May 31, 2018 19:59:58 GMT -8
There were several stories in the media over the weekend regarding sold out sailings even with a quarter of the vehicle deck space unoccupied. Obviously the Salish trio's passenger accommodation space is on the small side. In fact I recall members on this board stating the pax space was too small after the first Salish ferry specifications were released. Is this really bad, well yes and no. The simple fix is to set up a booking system similar to what the airlines use. A very in demand flight / sailing is sold for a higher price than the one that leaves at dawn or after sunset. By spreading the pax load out over the day, it saves purchasing larger ferries at ever increasing costs. If a passenger must sail at a preferred time, they pay the price, if they are flexible and can travel off hours they can save money. You will then see the load factors average out, and the number of turned away passengers greatly decreased. A few years ago this type of reservation program was supposed to be a go, perhaps a member can refresh us as to why it did not come to fruition.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 3, 2018 20:04:35 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 5, 2018 16:29:36 GMT -8
Here are my views of Salish Eagle, seen from above in Bluffs Park on Galiano Island: 8:10pm, headed to Mayne Island:  . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr 5 ships: - Cumberland and Mayne are next to each other, both headed to Village Bay at same time. - Salish Eagle is also headed to Mayne, but will needed to wait for a while, until the #5 ships are done. - Coastal Celebration and Spirit of BC are in the background  . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ------------------ 9:08pm, heading to Tsawwassen one more time on a busy end to the long-weekend:  . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr  . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ---------------- The way to increase ferry capacity is to lengthen the ship, done easily with a long exposure at night: - Eagle on her way to her Long Harbour nest for the night, at 11:18pm.  . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr |
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Post by WettCoast on Jul 5, 2018 21:02:47 GMT -8
The way to increase ferry capacity is to lengthen the ship, done easily with a long exposure at night: - Eagle on her way to her Long Harbour nest for the night, at 11:18pm. . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr Nah, this looks more like you got a photo of the Queen Mary 2 heading into Active Pass. And here I thought ships of that size had to go around by Boundary Pass ... |
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 6, 2018 15:40:00 GMT -8
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Post by Brandon S on Jul 8, 2018 19:04:14 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 24, 2018 19:17:46 GMT -8
Morant's Curve along the Bow River was named for Nick Morant because he took so many fabulous train photos at that location. On Salt Spring Island there is a point near Long Harbour that I'm calling "Scott Point." - and the map agrees with me already.... Salish Eagle on July 19, 2018:  DSC04343 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr  DSC04355 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr |
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Post by Charles on Jul 30, 2018 19:24:34 GMT -8
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Post by Brandon S on Sept 2, 2018 20:15:05 GMT -8
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 7, 2018 20:52:46 GMT -8
Salish double @ BC Ferries' Tsawwassen Terminal berths 1 & 2
6 September 2018
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 10, 2018 8:47:35 GMT -8
BC Ferries' Salish Eagle approaching Tsawwassen Terminal - 6 September 2018
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Two birds circling around. The Salish Eagle and the Salish Raven by Deck-dog SSI, on Flickr
I'll sheepishly admit that I was driving while I snapped the first of the two pics here - made necessary because they had us drive off the Eagle and right onto the Raven without any downtime in the car lanes. That's something that RARELY happened when the Nanaimo was on the route.
