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Post by Curtis on Nov 30, 2023 18:26:33 GMT -8
Last intermediate sized ship on the route iirc was the tsawwassen in July 1995. The Victoria was assigned as third sb ship that summer but was redeployed to cover a broken c class for a couple of weeks. Tsawwassen filled in, possibly the first time on r1 since 1962 since she went to route 2 that year. I seem to recall reading on the forum somewhere that the Queen of Burnaby did a brief stint on Route 1 in the early 2000s. Think it was following the Queen of Surrey engine room fire in 2003? (Think that was one of the rare times the Queen of Vancouver ran on Route 2 as well) The Burnaby must have been in refit at that time cause I doubt they would’ve brought her all the way from Comox just for that.
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Post by Mike on Nov 30, 2023 19:56:50 GMT -8
Last intermediate sized ship on the route iirc was the tsawwassen in July 1995. The Victoria was assigned as third sb ship that summer but was redeployed to cover a broken c class for a couple of weeks. Tsawwassen filled in, possibly the first time on r1 since 1962 since she went to route 2 that year. I seem to recall reading on the forum somewhere that the Queen of Burnaby did a brief stint on Route 1 in the early 2000s. Think it was following the Queen of Surrey engine room fire in 2003? (Think that was one of the rare times the Queen of Vancouver ran on Route 2 as well) The Burnaby must have been in refit at that time cause I doubt they would’ve brought her all the way from Comox just for that. Not sure if it's the same event you're thinking of, but the Queen of Burnaby filled in for the Queen of Vancouver over the Easter weekend in 2004.
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Post by Dane on Dec 1, 2023 12:48:29 GMT -8
I've been watching the sailing times on the Heron yesterday and today (albeit only one sailing today, so far). Average sailing time has been 1h43 with slowest at 1h48 so far. Probably a little tight for a two hour turn around with the car deck layout/garage, but not that bad at all.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 3, 2023 18:01:28 GMT -8
I've been watching the sailing times on the Heron yesterday and today (albeit only one sailing today, so far). Average sailing time has been 1h43 with slowest at 1h48 so far. Probably a little tight for a two hour turn around with the car deck layout/garage, but not that bad at all. I kinda wish that BC Ferries would be accurate on the vessel speed on fleet page and sailing times.
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Dec 3, 2023 20:38:13 GMT -8
I did a round trip on the Heron today departing Tsawwassen at 10am and returning from Swartz Bay at 1230pm. It was an enjoyable trip and one thing that surprised me was that they were serving beer and wine in the cafeteria with all the appropriate signage posted around the ship. I didn't think they'd go to the trouble for just a 2 weekend stint. The chief steward was very friendly and says they want to get a good idea of how a Salish works on that route to give more flexibility in the future. He mentioned what we've noticed already...the sailing time is usually around 1h45m as opposed to 2 hours. He said one caveat is that the Swartz Bay overhead walkways don't fit the Salish class.
What I particularly enjoyed was lunch on the way back...a non-White Spot cheeseburger! Very tasty IMHO.
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Post by Neil on Dec 3, 2023 20:47:43 GMT -8
I did a round trip on the Heron today departing Tsawwassen at 10am and returning from Swartz Bay at 1230pm. It was an enjoyable trip and one thing that surprised me was that they were serving beer and wine in the cafeteria with all the appropriate signage posted around the ship. I didn't think they'd go to the trouble for just a 2 weekend stint. The chief steward was very friendly and says they want to get a good idea of how a Salish works on that route to give more flexibility in the future. He mentioned what we've noticed already...the sailing time is usually around 1h45m as opposed to 2 hours. He said one caveat is that the Swartz Bay overhead walkways don't fit the Salish class. What I particularly enjoyed was lunch on the way back...a non-White Spot cheeseburger! Very tasty IMHO. You occasionally see a route one sailing clocking at 80 to 85 minutes, so I guess if they pushed a Salish vessel to it's best 15 knot operating speed, they could do 105 minutes, perhaps also aided by wind and tide. That is interesting that they were serving alcohol. The thing with route one is the high level of foot passengers... I wonder what a Salish vessel is like at its maximum pax capacity, in terms of seating, particularly when BC Ferries says they're limiting the commercial traffic on those sailings, meaning more passenger vehicles.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 3, 2023 22:06:51 GMT -8
It seems like Tsawwassen to Swartz Bay are taking longer than Swartz Bay to Tsawwassen, I wonder what reason behind this is? Would ocean current make a vessel go faster?
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Post by grk2 on Dec 4, 2023 10:12:29 GMT -8
Tides
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Dec 4, 2023 10:43:51 GMT -8
I've been watching the sailing times on the Heron yesterday and today (albeit only one sailing today, so far). Average sailing time has been 1h43 with slowest at 1h48 so far. Probably a little tight for a two hour turn around with the car deck layout/garage, but not that bad at all. I kinda wish that BC Ferries would be accurate on the vessel speed on fleet page and sailing times. Given fluctuating speed at any given moment, doesn't seem necessary for them to be super picky about what is listed online.
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Post by QoNW Fan on Dec 7, 2023 22:00:51 GMT -8
So cool to see the Salish Heron on route 1! Definitely better than no sailing at all.
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Post by Dane on Dec 8, 2023 16:12:58 GMT -8
LIVE! from the Salish Heron!
One of my first ferry nerd trips in awhile after a failed attempt to take the Celebration on it's modified South of Active Pass route - thanks TransLink.
Anyways had to be in Vancouver for work today, and modified my day so I could get on the 330pm sailing Tsawwassen -} Swartz Bay.
Nothing that exciting to report. Longest sailing time today was reported by the conditions page at 105 minutes, fastest as 92 minutes. Not bad.
Overhead walkway was used at Tsawwassen, which seemed new to the crew, so assuming that's a recent change?
BC Ferries always amuses and annoys me with the seeming surprise in the cafeteria that people are boarding and will order food, "we will be another ten minutes" should just get permanently imprinted at the front of the line.
I think the boat is full of cars? Ballpark 50 walk ons, didn't look that closely, I walked on but was first so I could enjoy my cafeteria wait experience. It actually feels like a very light load on the passenger deck, I can only assume a lot of people are in cars but haven't been down there.
I imagine on busier sailings things wouldn't be this pleasant, but it's been quite a nice crossing so far. Perhaps the thirty minutes after a Spirit leaving helps too, the 3pm SoBC had a very, very long foot passenger line.
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Post by Olympic Ferries on Dec 8, 2023 17:50:13 GMT -8
LIVE! from the Salish Heron!One of my first ferry nerd trips in awhile after a failed attempt to take the Celebration on it's modified South of Active Pass route - thanks TransLink. Anyways had to be in Vancouver for work today, and modified my day so I could get on the 330pm sailing Tsawwassen -} Swartz Bay. Nothing that exciting to report. Longest sailing time today was reported by the conditions page at 105 minutes, fastest as 92 minutes. Not bad. Overhead walkway was used at Tsawwassen, which seemed new to the crew, so assuming that's a recent change? BC Ferries always amuses and annoys me with the seeming surprise in the cafeteria that people are boarding and will order food, "we will be another ten minutes" should just get permanently imprinted at the front of the line. I think the boat is full of cars? Ballpark 50 walk ons, didn't look that closely, I walked on but was first so I could enjoy my cafeteria wait experience. It actually feels like a very light load on the passenger deck, I can only assume a lot of people are in cars but haven't been down there. I imagine on busier sailings things wouldn't be this pleasant, but it's been quite a nice crossing so far. Perhaps the thirty minutes after a Spirit leaving helps too, the 3pm SoBC had a very, very long foot passenger line. I have most absolutely used the overhead walkway on the Salish Heron & Eagle in Tsawwassen before (Berths 3 and 5) so I dunno why it seemed like it was new? Has definitely been done before.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Dec 10, 2023 16:30:41 GMT -8
I took Salish Heron on route 1 which is very weird but it didn’t seem busy which was shocking. But I have notice that berth for major vessels berths with Salish Class docked them seem kinda angled when the ramp comes down. I hope BC Ferries is going to use more reflective sailing times on schedules for temporary routes or vessels on certain routes because the sailing are taking shorter times than schedule says.
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Post by Neil on Dec 10, 2023 18:21:32 GMT -8
I took Salish Heron on route 1 which is very weird but it didn’t seem busy which was shocking. But I have notice that berth for major vessels berths with Salish Class docked them seem kinda angled when the ramp comes down. I hope BC Ferries is going to use more reflective sailing times on schedules for temporary routes or vessels on certain routes because the sailing are taking shorter times than schedule says. Four sailings today, varying between 1 hr, 34 minutes and 1 hr, 51. I'm really surprised she can do it in 94 minutes, given her posted service speed of 15 knots, which isn't usually used when she's on the Gulf Islands runs. Anybody check vessel tracking to see if she's ever racing along with wind and tide at 17 knots?
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Feb 12, 2024 7:33:23 GMT -8
Salish Heron has replaced the Salish Eagle on route 9.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Mar 16, 2024 20:54:02 GMT -8
Salish Heron will be based out Swartz Bay for her second appearance for route 1 service.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on May 2, 2024 16:32:42 GMT -8
Salish Heron now has black railings on both ends of the vessel.
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Post by Neil on May 2, 2024 16:51:26 GMT -8
Salish Heron now has black railings on both ends of the vessel. 'Railings' are usually for people to hold on to. Where are these railings exactly, how extensive are they, and what purpose do they seem to serve?
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Post by Ollie on May 2, 2024 17:11:03 GMT -8
Salish Heron now has black railings on both ends of the vessel. 'Railings' are usually for people to hold on to. Where are these railings exactly, how extensive are they, and what purpose do they seem to serve? Visible here:
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Post by anderpz on May 4, 2024 18:15:29 GMT -8
Salish Heron now has black railings on both ends of the vessel. 'Railings' are usually for people to hold on to. Where are these railings exactly, how extensive are they, and what purpose do they seem to serve? The black railings are much less visible against the background. This is likely for visibility when docking, especially at night. The QoNW also has black railings at the front to make them less visible. Edit: Just noticed this was already answered in the Salish Eagle thread. Attachments:
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