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Post by nolonger on Apr 12, 2007 13:46:26 GMT -8
have you ever been through porlier pass? there has been a ferry to go through but was not recommended. the day of the alberni grounding in active pass the queen of sidney, after waiting off active pass for a couple of hours, went up tincomali channel to porlier pass and then on to tsawwassen. how do i know this? well the master on the sidney that day was an uncle of mine. some of our older ferries employees on here may know who he is. ladysmith harbour could handle ferries. it is a able to handle deep sea freighters. The whole topic is moot as Porlier Pass is not a viable option. A smaller ferry like the Sydney ok and I believe it was the Vancouver that went through a few years ago. If my memory serves me correctly, she was responding to a fire aboard a deep water vessel anchored up near Ladysmith, and carried on to Tsawwassen afterward via Porlier. But it's just too tight to use on a regular basis. Does your uncle have a name?
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Post by nolonger on Apr 12, 2007 13:48:49 GMT -8
Well do most trucks that currently utilize route 30 go north or south on the island highway? Even though the section of the Island Highway in Ladysmith has many lights, could traffic still be utilized there effectively without creating more traffic? Most go north. I know because I'm usually stuck in ferry traffic on the Nanaimo Parkway after working morning shift and I see most of the trucks we just off loaded plugging it up.
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Post by kylefossett on Apr 12, 2007 14:03:13 GMT -8
don and he has been retired about 10-15yrs. i believe he also did some damage at one time at swartz bay with the queen of burnaby when they had her out to check out viability of the vessel on route 9 the vancouver responding to a deep water vessel near ladysmith, was a coast guard vessel not closer or able to respond quicker. i am assuming the vancouver was on route 1. if on route 30 then i could see her being close enough.
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Post by nolonger on Apr 12, 2007 14:41:09 GMT -8
There were several vessels that responded. The on scene commander if I remember correctly was the CCG vessel Skua, which was in the area. Anyway I have known or known of lots of Don's at the ferries. I understand if you don't want to say his name here. I was just curious.
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Post by kylefossett on Apr 12, 2007 14:55:47 GMT -8
the Skua makes sense as she was at that time based at ganges. would have been neat to see a v-class vessel up ladysmith way. if i remember correctly around '82 i saw a c-class come up from samsum narrows and past crofton pulp mill. this would have been a tight trip at the narrows and would have relied on the tides. if would have no problem mentioning my uncle's last name but because my cousin, his son, works for ferries and is my source for a lot of info i have passed on to this board i am unable to mention the last name. he only ever worked route 9 in my lifetime. may have worked other routes earlier in his career but i am unsure. so i am not actually hiding his last name but protecting my source who has the same last name
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Post by hwy19man on Apr 13, 2007 13:54:06 GMT -8
We used to sail out of DepBay on rte 30 and the time difference was pretty much zero. The same would be true for HSB to Duke. We have sailed from Duke to Horseshoe Bay due to heavy weather and Tswwassen being closed. Except for the infamous 8 hour crossing the time difference is negligible. Traffic congestion can always be relieved by adding more sailings but then fuel and other operating costs go up. The most efficient way of course is to run full boats, but we do need a regular schedule. Back in the early '70s we ran 2 boats on rtes 1 and 2 with 2 others on standby, meaning they were manned and ready to go if needed, but not very cost effective. I remember some friends who sailed on route 30 from Tsawwassen two years ago (I think) on a Sunday summer morning and docking at Departure Bay because the ramps at Duke Point were not working. The crossing time was the same as it was before Duke Point was built.
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Post by hwy19man on Apr 13, 2007 13:57:50 GMT -8
A mini dream ferry route would be from Lund to Cortes Island east. This way one could travel on the mini circle route and connect to the Cortes Island west\Quadra Island east route and so on.
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Post by hwy19man on Apr 13, 2007 14:01:57 GMT -8
Well do most trucks that currently utilize route 30 go north or south on the island highway? Even though the section of the Island Highway in Ladysmith has many lights, could traffic still be utilized there effectively without creating more traffic? Most go north. I know because I'm usually stuck in ferry traffic on the Nanaimo Parkway after working morning shift and I see most of the trucks we just off loaded plugging it up. Agreed. Yet many cars go south, especially on the 2245h sailing from Tsawwassen.
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Post by Hardy on Apr 13, 2007 18:49:33 GMT -8
Agreed. Yet many cars go south, especially on the 2245h sailing from Tsawwassen. I think that this one may be the only anomaly to the general rule. I know that even when I am headed to Victoria, I frequently catch the last sailing to Duke based on what time I get headed to the ferries on the mainland side. I suspect that there are a fair number of other commercial vehicle operators that do similar.
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Post by DENelson83 on Apr 26, 2007 22:05:45 GMT -8
A mini dream ferry route would be from Lund to Cortes Island east. This way one could travel on the mini circle route and connect to the Cortes Island west\Quadra Island east route and so on. I second that. I wouldn't mind, though, seeing a route between Departure Bay and Langdale, one between Gabriola and Valdes Islands, as well as one between Duke Point and Horseshoe Bay (would require one extra berth at each of those terminals, though, and vessel traffic on the Strait would be a bit more of a nightmare, plus the high NIMBY factor on the Whytecliff). BTW, did you notice that to get from Vancouver Island to any vehicle ferry-accessible location on the south coast, you need not take more than two ships?
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Post by Scott on Apr 26, 2007 22:49:03 GMT -8
Unfortunately? there is no room at Horseshoe Bay for another berth. It's a beautiful spot, but there's not much space for expansion, least of all on the waterfront.
A ferry between Lund and Cortes would be nice. It would be a beautiful trip. But then, it would be as economically successful as a Wal Mart in Spuzzum:)
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Post by Mill Bay on Jun 25, 2007 13:03:38 GMT -8
So I know I'm resurrecting on old topic everyone, but a funny thing happened last night and I wanted to know if anyone has ever had a similar experience... This isn't about dreaming where I would want a ferry to go, but I did have an actual dream about a ferry... (huh!!??) Yeah, you heard right... Anyone else ever have one? Just thought I might share the concept with you guys and see if I have any company in this department . If anyone is captivated by the idea, I'll actually tell what I saw in the dream. [glow=green,2,300]As a dream comes when cares are many... so being too busy gives you daydreams.[/glow]I know this topic is about as old as the forum itself, but there always seems to be lots of ideas to throw out there. On another thread the following posts were made and I've created this thread to encourage it to continue. It might be unrealistic, but it's fun. So here's a place to discuss your ideas, as unworldly as they might be:)
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 25, 2007 19:15:10 GMT -8
Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl
Mr Fluge gave me an idea. What about a route directly from Duke Point to Earls Cove? Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl...
For the full journey that song would be playing over the ship's PA system. What fun!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 25, 2007 19:22:01 GMT -8
I had a ferry-dream 2 nights ago. A C-Class was coming into Departure Bay, and did a power-slide port-turn and went down Newcastle Channel at full speed. It was supposed to dock on an elevated ramp, somewhere near the Wellox rail year. By elevated, I mean that the ship would leave the water, and go up a ramp, and end up on an elevated platform (sort of like a platform that they use at automobile-dealerships, to elevate a car). Once on the platform, the ship tilted forward, and crashed down, bow first. That's all of the dream. It doesn't have to make sense....but there you have it.
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Post by Hardy on Jun 25, 2007 19:36:40 GMT -8
Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Mr Fluge gave me an idea. What about a route directly from Duke Point to Earls Cove? Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl... For the full journey that song would be playing over the ship's PA system. What fun! Hmmm, how would this effect the ridership on Comox-PR run? Would there be a demand for it at all? 2 sailings a day? 4? More details, other than the theme song. On THAT topic, should we be asking to play the Gilligans Island Theme at Tsawwassen or Departure? The waits seem to be about a 3-hour tour (of the facilities).
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Post by Hardy on Jun 25, 2007 19:40:17 GMT -8
I had a ferry-dream 2 nights ago. A C-Class was coming into Departure Bay, and did a power-slide port-turn and went down Newcastle Channel at full speed. The rest of it seems pretty out there, but I like this part --- wanna commandeer a ship and see if this is even possible? ;D
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 25, 2007 19:51:24 GMT -8
Here are some dream routes. (yeah, some are impractical because of landlocked areas....but who knows what accessibility global-warming will bring?) All of the below routes have some sort of connection....trust me. ;D ========================
Vesuvius to Montserrat
Saltery Bay to Pickle Lake
Port Hardy to Nancy Drew Island
Denman, to Burrard, to Granville, to Hornby
Port McNeill to Port Lehrer
Horseshoe Bay to Hand Grenade Cove
(Jane) Powell River to (Howard) Keel Bay
Kuper Island to Jofa Inlet
Skidegate to Pallet Cove
Buckley Bay to Benylin Island
Cortes Island to Kennedy Lake
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Post by Balfour on Jun 25, 2007 21:04:39 GMT -8
Fluge, did it ever occur to you that Kennedy Lake is Grouse Mountain's water supply for the Snow-making machines up there?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jun 25, 2007 21:09:00 GMT -8
Fluge, did it ever occur to you that Kennedy Lake is Grouse Mountain's water supply for the Snow-making machines up there? Is there a Kennedy-Lake in North-Van, or do you mean the one by Tofino? ....or am I missing a joke ?
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Jun 25, 2007 21:38:28 GMT -8
Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Duke, duke, duke of earl Mr Fluge gave me an idea. What about a route directly from Duke Point to Earls Cove? Duke, duke, duke, duke of earl... For the full journey that song would be playing over the ship's PA system. What fun! With the exception of the theme song I did a little research on the possibility of this route. It would probably take about 4 hours using a ferry like the Queen of Nanaimo. So then say it left Earles Cove at 6:30 (yes it would be Earles Cove based) then sailed to Duke Point, arrived at Duke Point at 10:30. Unloaded, Loaded. left at 11:10 arrived at Earles Cove at 3:10. Crew Change. Left Earles Cove at 3:30 arrive Duke Point at 7:30. Left Duke Point at 7:40 and arrive Earles Cove at 11:40. A very long day
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Post by Hardy on Jun 26, 2007 16:10:35 GMT -8
With the exception of the theme song I did a little research on the possibility of this route. It would probably take about 4 hours using a ferry like the Queen of Nanaimo. So then say it left Earles Cove at 6:30 (yes it would be Earles Cove based) then sailed to Duke Point, arrived at Duke Point at 10:30. Unloaded, Loaded. left at 11:10 arrived at Earles Cove at 3:10. Crew Change. Left Earles Cove at 3:30 arrive Duke Point at 7:30. Left Duke Point at 7:40 and arrive Earles Cove at 11:40. A very long day Hmmm ... a four hour crossing? Wow, the fares on this route would be prohibitive then. In a dream world maybe .... all this being said, would this route, in reality FLY compared to Comox-PR? Would it save any time? Would it not be quicker to DRIVE the distance from Nanaimo to Comox via the Inland Highway? I know we are talking dream routes, but I still feel the need to play devils advocate on this ...
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Post by BreannaF on Jun 26, 2007 16:35:29 GMT -8
All of the below routes have some sort of connection....trust me. Actually, I had to ponder a couple of those -- but that was fun to think about for a minute or two. But..... I'm missing the connection on last one.....
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jun 26, 2007 17:11:39 GMT -8
Kennedy Lake is definitely on the way to Tofino. I know the Capilano reservoir is responsible for a very large percentage of Vancouvers water. The Seymour and Coquitlam Reservoirs are also very important.
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Post by Northern Exploration on Jun 26, 2007 17:12:58 GMT -8
Flugel I think you should watch what you are eating and/or drinking close to bedtime in the future or next you will be seeing flying ferries
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Post by DENelson83 on Jun 26, 2007 18:30:40 GMT -8
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