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Post by ferryfanyvr on Aug 25, 2009 20:45:07 GMT -8
So there's now less than 2 weeks until the 2009/2010 refit season gets underway. The Coquitlam will be the first major vessel for her annual refit as usual...the Langdale crew told me this past weekend that she will be leaving for Deas once her supplementary postion on route 3 is finished after Labour Day.
It will be interesting so see how the Coastals' first major refits progress. I'm wondering about the CI. When she's in refit, will they keep route 30's overheight capacity by moving the CR to Duke Point and have the Cowichan take over on route 2?...or will route 30 get a C-Class? I guess we'll find out in the upcoming months.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Aug 26, 2009 12:53:43 GMT -8
the bowen will also be going in after labour day
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Sept 10, 2009 9:21:15 GMT -8
The refit replacement vessels for the remainder of this year are now showing up on BCF website's Travel Centre. The majority are what we all expected....the QoNW is replacing the SOBC first, then the QoA on rte 30. Apparently the refits of the CR and Q of Cowichan are overlapping because the Coquitlam is filling in. But get this...when the SOVI enters refit, she's being replaced by the CC as number one vessel and the number 2 ship is showing as the CR! So when the Renaissance leaves refit, she heads to Swartz Bay for a while before heading back home to Departure Bay
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Post by rt1commuter on Sept 10, 2009 9:34:00 GMT -8
Right, because the Cs can't do Active Pass . Funny thing though, why not just move the QoNW to Swartz for that period. Is it a crew training thing? Aren't the crews on both sides trained on the V/B class?
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Sept 10, 2009 10:12:38 GMT -8
Since the QoNW's upgrade she is a much different ship than any of the recently retired V's, so I'm sure crew training is an issue. As well, the NW is replacing the Alberni on rt 30 at the same time, so she's not available anyway.
This will be the 3rd terminal the CR has been based at....quite interesting to see a brand new ship seeing such a variety of home ports so early in her career.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Sept 14, 2009 18:40:19 GMT -8
well as of right now ships in for refit are :
Queen of Coquitlam Powell River Queen Tenaka
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Post by gordon on Sept 14, 2009 19:49:05 GMT -8
Any idea when the Nor Ad is due for her refit?
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 14, 2009 20:51:27 GMT -8
Any idea when the Nor Ad is due for her refit? By the look of the schedule probably Apr. 1st to May 15th, or when she breaks down, whichever comes first.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 25, 2009 8:24:42 GMT -8
I heard the C Rennie is gonna be replacing the Celebration when the Celebration is replacing the SOVI which means two Coastals based at Swartz Bay??? How is that gonna work as far as berths?? I have never seen the Celebration use berth 1 can a Coastal use berth 3 at Swartz Bay?? Should be interesting!
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 25, 2009 9:02:10 GMT -8
When'll be 'Ex be in Deas?
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Post by Mike C on Sept 25, 2009 9:45:10 GMT -8
When'll be 'Ex be in Deas? Judging by how frequently the Coastals have gone in for refit, probably not for a while...
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Sept 25, 2009 19:09:22 GMT -8
I heard the C Rennie is gonna be replacing the Celebration when the Celebration is replacing the SOVI which means two Coastals based at Swartz Bay??? How is that gonna work as far as berths?? I have never seen the Celebration use berth 1 can a Coastal use berth 3 at Swartz Bay?? Should be interesting! They will probably continue to have the Coastals avoid berth 1. I believe the Coastals fit fine in berth 3, except for the foot passenger walkway, so they will probably tie up the CR in berth 3, but use berth 2 for loading/unloading seeing as Swartz Bay seems to avoid footsies using the main car deck at all costs.
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Post by Nick on Sept 25, 2009 19:22:26 GMT -8
I heard the C Rennie is gonna be replacing the Celebration when the Celebration is replacing the SOVI which means two Coastals based at Swartz Bay??? How is that gonna work as far as berths?? I have never seen the Celebration use berth 1 can a Coastal use berth 3 at Swartz Bay?? Should be interesting! They will probably continue to have the Coastals avoid berth 1. I believe the Coastals fit fine in berth 3, except for the foot passenger walkway, so they will probably tie up the CR in berth 3, but use berth 2 for loading/unloading seeing as Swartz Bay seems to avoid footsies using the main car deck at all costs. This is my thinking as well. The foot pax ramp on berth 3 does not line up with any access points on the Coastals, so to maintain a decent on time performance they will probably use berth 2. The No. 2 vessel will only be used Fridays and Sundays anyway, so it shouldn't be too burdensome. The reason Swartz Bay (Tsawwassen does this too, for the record) avoids using the main deck to load foot passengers is because it takes way too long. It started with the cyclists and pet owners, but then people realized that anybody could board there and beat the rush to the lounge seats and cafeteria. So the load walking on got bigger and bigger, to the point that it started interfering with the on time performance of the ships. Also, it is hard on the officer supervising the loading to have so many people milling around the car deck when they are wanting to get vehicles on board safely. Anyway, that is the reason I was given when I asked a terminal manager at SWB.
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Post by Mill Bay on Sept 25, 2009 21:28:02 GMT -8
They will probably continue to have the Coastals avoid berth 1. I believe the Coastals fit fine in berth 3, except for the foot passenger walkway, so they will probably tie up the CR in berth 3, but use berth 2 for loading/unloading seeing as Swartz Bay seems to avoid footsies using the main car deck at all costs. This is my thinking as well. The foot pax ramp on berth 3 does not line up with any access points on the Coastals, so to maintain a decent on time performance they will probably use berth 2. The No. 2 vessel will only be used Fridays and Sundays anyway, so it shouldn't be too burdensome. Do we know at all how a Coastal would fit into berth 1 at Swartz Bay, or is that a definite no-go?
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Post by Nick on Sept 25, 2009 21:44:59 GMT -8
Do we know at all how a Coastal would fit into berth 1 at Swartz Bay, or is that a definite no-go? The Coastals will fit into berth 1, and they did dock trials with the Celebration last year. The problem is that the topography of the sea floor by berth 1 is quite soft and shallow. The wash that the Coastals push while docking has been thought to cause erosion and other problems. The bottom line is that after those trials last September/October, BCF decided that berth 1 won't be used by a Coastal, period.
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Post by WettCoast on Sept 25, 2009 22:12:11 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 27, 2009 21:06:48 GMT -8
Is the Burnaby going into refit this year? She's needing a new paint job pretty badly according to what I saw this afternoon in Comox...
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Post by Nick on Sept 27, 2009 21:19:39 GMT -8
Apparently the 'Burnaby will be going in for refit sometime this spring. It's supposed to be a fairly long one too, so hopefully she sees some decent work done.
I have also heard rumours that due to budget constraints, they will be skipping refits on both the Nanny and the Burnaby this year. I don't put a lot of stock in them for a few reasons, one being that the Burnaby really does need some work, and the other that the Nanny wasn't supposed to get a refit this year in the first place. (she goes in next fall supposedly).
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 29, 2009 9:52:56 GMT -8
Oct 13th to Nov 22 according to RBI the SOBC is out of service being replaced the by the Queen of New West. Then Nov 23rd the SOVI goes out and is replaced the by the Coastal Celebration then around the 27th I would say the Renaissance comes down to Swartz Bay as the #2 ship replacing the Celebration at and around this time the New West will be on route 30 replacing the Alberni even though the same time she is listed on route 1 she is listed on route 30 to which is probably a mistake one of them. I love refit season!!
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 29, 2009 11:30:29 GMT -8
Apparently the 'Burnaby will be going in for refit sometime this spring. It's supposed to be a fairly long one too, so hopefully she sees some decent work done. I have also heard rumours that due to budget constraints, they will be skipping refits on both the Nanny and the Burnaby this year. I don't put a lot of stock in them for a few reasons, one being that the Burnaby really does need some work, and the other that the Nanny wasn't supposed to get a refit this year in the first place. (she goes in next fall supposedly). Thanks. And who would be replacing her at that time? Chilliwack? One of the minor vessels? And, Does the Nicola get refitted with the BC Ferries fleet, or do her operators have to refit her themselves?
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Post by Nick on Sept 29, 2009 11:49:48 GMT -8
Thanks. And who would be replacing her at that time? Chilliwack? One of the minor vessels? And, Does the Nicola get refitted with the BC Ferries fleet, or do her operators have to refit her themselves? The Chilliwack would most likely be replacing her, as that is what happened last year when the Burnaby was taken out for a quick refit. The Comox-Powell River route is a cross-strait, unprotected route, and as such needs a closed deck vessel to meet TC regs. A minor/intermediate vessel like the I-sky would not be suitable. BCF does the refit on the Nicola, as I recall seeing pictures of her at both Departure Bay and Deas. I don't know if BCF pays for it as the owner of the vessel, or if the native band is required to pay for it as part of their lease agreement.
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Post by Neil on Sept 29, 2009 13:24:14 GMT -8
BCF does the refit on the Nicola, as I recall seeing pictures of her at both Departure Bay and Deas. I don't know if BCF pays for it as the owner of the vessel, or if the native band is required to pay for it as part of their lease agreement. From the BC Ferries '07-'08 annual report: During fiscal 2008, the Province agreed to reimburse us a maximum of $1.6 million for the refit of the 23 year old (sic) Nicola, which provides service on our un-regulated Prince Rupert- Lax Kwala'ams route. At March 2008, we recorded a $0.5 million reduction of maintenance expense, equal to the refits costs incurred to that date.I take that to indicate that there might be money left for further refit work. It wouldn't be realistic to expect the band to have resources to cover any extensive maintenance.
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Post by c15cat on Sept 29, 2009 17:43:00 GMT -8
The Burnaby is supposed to be gone for 1.5 months or something like that and its supposed to happen this fall not in the spring. The Wack has gone to deas for repairs I think its in need for major repairs.
The rumor is they want to dump 3 million into the Chilliwack I don't know why but they do. I think they should be building a ship that can replace the Burnaby and the Island Sky.
I think they need to find a perminant replacement for the Burnaby it getting old and what I hear its getting pretty thin.
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Post by lmtengs on Sept 29, 2009 17:49:23 GMT -8
I think they should be building a ship that can replace the Burnaby and the Island Sky. That doesn't make sense. The Island Sky is brand new... I think they need to find a perminant replacement for the Burnaby it getting old and what I hear its getting pretty thin. Getting thin? Thin as in the metal on the ship, or BCF's budget?
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 29, 2009 18:32:27 GMT -8
I think they should be building a ship that can replace the Burnaby and the Island Sky. That doesn't make sense. The Island Sky is brand new... A ship that can replace both those ships during their annual refits.
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