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Post by Curtis on Sept 29, 2009 18:39:12 GMT -8
I think they need to find a perminant replacement for the Burnaby it getting old and what I hear its getting pretty thin. Getting thin? Thin as in the metal on the ship, or BCF's budget? I'm going to guess he's pointing more-so towards metal. Probably because of the rust she's showing right now.
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Post by Neil on Sept 29, 2009 21:01:25 GMT -8
The Queen of Burnaby isn't slated to be replaced for several years, so BC Ferries must know that structurally, she's in decent shape. As oceaneer pointed out some time ago, the surface rust that you see doesn't necessarily mean anything.
Two or three years ago, they had mentioned upgrading the Queen of Chilliwack as one of three options (newbuild, buying used), so who knows.
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Post by Mike C on Oct 5, 2009 20:18:25 GMT -8
The Tenaka is currently in dry dock in New West in Queensborough, as seen from the Q-Borough Bridge to the east.
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Post by c15cat on Oct 6, 2009 13:59:16 GMT -8
I guess they could resheet the bottom of the burnaby if they have too but that would be expensive.
BCF should have built another closed deck ship so it could be used on open water crossings. Some thing that can move and has good loading capabilities. The old Tsawassen was a b*tch to load because of the bow door opening plus she was a little rolly.
Ever watch a fully loaded B train go on her the old ship would list over till the water touched her chines then roll back as the truck got placed.
A closed deck ship with conventional shaft drive none of this RAD crap.
I don't think I could see the I Sky going from Little River to Westview. She is such a high floater it would be pretty rolly. They would have to make a announcement free barf bags in the cafeteria.
The old Chilliwack all a passengers wear a life jacket for the crossing ;D
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Post by Neil on Oct 6, 2009 16:53:03 GMT -8
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Post by lmtengs on Oct 6, 2009 18:48:08 GMT -8
great pics!
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Post by ferrytraveller on Oct 7, 2009 10:54:23 GMT -8
Kwuna is currently at Nanaimo Shipyards
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 7, 2009 11:30:53 GMT -8
Kwuna is currently at Nanaimo Shipyards Thanks for the heads-up. I'll try to get some pictures this week.
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Post by Mike C on Oct 7, 2009 12:51:52 GMT -8
The Tenaka is currently in dry dock in New West in Queensborough, as seen from the Q-Borough Bridge to the east. Thanks for that tip, New Flyer. One of my favorite ferries, at Fraser Shipyard. A worker told me that her hull was in good shape, and that she was going to look "pretty terrific" when finished. No problem. Did said worker mention anything about her departure date from Fraser?
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on Oct 7, 2009 15:11:40 GMT -8
Kwuna has not arrived at Nanaimo Shipyards quite yet...
She is apparently under the tow of Ballantyne Straits and is not due here in Nanaimo until later this evening.
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Post by Nickfro on Oct 7, 2009 15:18:11 GMT -8
Ballantyne Straits is currently between Telegraph Cove and Kelsey Bay, moving at 4.5 knots.
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Post by Mill Bay on Oct 7, 2009 22:44:31 GMT -8
The Tenaka is currently in dry dock in New West in Queensborough, as seen from the Q-Borough Bridge to the east. Thanks for that tip, New Flyer. One of my favorite ferries, at Fraser Shipyard. A worker told me that her hull was in good shape, and that she was going to look "pretty terrific" when finished. Neil, I really appreciate the Tenaka photos. Seeing her up on the ways like that just lends a different perspective to the workings of a ship. Somehow she looks smaller out of the water. It might be worth it to try and get down there before she leaves, or when she goes back in the water for some unique photos of the operations.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2009 11:01:12 GMT -8
Ballantyne Straits is currently between Telegraph Cove and Kelsey Bay, moving at 4.5 knots. The Tug is now off of Hornby Island. It will likely arrive at Nanaimo 24 hours late. I'll try to get some in-the-strait pictures this afternoon, and some shipyard pictures this weekend.
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Post by Neil on Oct 8, 2009 13:39:35 GMT -8
Neil, I really appreciate the Tenaka photos. Seeing her up on the ways like that just lends a different perspective to the workings of a ship. Somehow she looks smaller out of the water. It might be worth it to try and get down there before she leaves, or when she goes back in the water for some unique photos of the operations. Just shows how everything is relative. Watch a hockey game on TV and it's easy to criticize what look to be bonehead moves. Watch one from the first row in the arena and you're blown away by how quick and instinctive players have to be. The Tenaka would look like a minnow if you were looking at her from the sundeck of a Coastal docked alongside, but stand beside her with your feet almost at keel level and she looks impressively massive.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 8, 2009 17:22:11 GMT -8
darn it. I was up flying earlier today and if she was farther south I could of taken some aeriel photos of her. Oh well, maybe next time!
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 8, 2009 20:40:48 GMT -8
Kwuna refit at Nanaimo Shipyard: She arrived this evening, and I arrived shortly after. Tomorrow she'll likely be pulled up onto the ways. For now, she's moored at the end of the shipyard jetty, next to a marina. Here's how things looked on the evening of her arrival: ============ Shipyard on left, Kwuna on right. A stitch of the empty ways Kwuna at the end of the jetty Peek-a-boo Kwuna and the marina boats:
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Oct 9, 2009 19:19:07 GMT -8
According to the Travel Centre, the QoNW is still taking over as #1 out of Tsawwassen on Tuesday, but the SOBC is taking over for the SOVI at Swartz Bay...I don't believe the SOBC's been based there since 1993-94.
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 9, 2009 21:24:31 GMT -8
You have to wonder why they would move the SoBC over to SWB in preference to operating the C-Cel as the primary boat out of that side? Does BCFS have an aversion to full time operation of the C-Cel?
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Post by Dane on Oct 9, 2009 23:32:52 GMT -8
That is really strange, they're taking a net capacity decrease for what must be a very marginal savings. The CCel has run a lot of full time service already, albeit also spent an unfortunate amount of time tied up.
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Post by Quatchi on Oct 9, 2009 23:49:16 GMT -8
I could see that SB might not have enough crew trained on the C.Cel. to run her full time at the moment. Yet the SOVI and SOBC are very similar so any Faming that would need to be done would be quite Quick. Then on the TSA side they might have enough guys trained on the New West to run her full time. Thats my theory.
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Post by Mirrlees on Oct 10, 2009 0:03:32 GMT -8
According to the RBI, C-Cel is operating as SOVI's replacement as #1 out of Swartz Bay. The New West is also running a full day to make up the capacity loss.
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Post by Curtis on Oct 12, 2009 10:37:27 GMT -8
The SoBC and SoVI are trading Refit Times...and for some strange reason they are redeploying the SoBC to Swartz and using the New West out of Tsawwassen over the Celebration. (the C-Cel is only making supplementary service on the weekends) SPIRIT OF VANCOUVER ISLAND GOES FOR EARLY REFITIt makes no sense if you ask me. Why (in BC Ferries' mind) would they choose to replace one of their two largest vessels with their 45-year-old, overhauled vessel instead of one of their 1-year-old, 2nd largest vessels? Did they not train multiple crews to run the C-Cel?
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Post by Nick on Oct 12, 2009 10:53:47 GMT -8
It makes no sense if you ask me. Why (in BC Ferries' mind) would they choose to replace one of their two largest vessels with their 45-year-old, overhauled vessel instead of one of their 1-year-old, 2nd largest vessels? Did they not train multiple crews to run the C-Cel? In a nutshell, no. Not all the SWB route 1 crews are trained on a Coastal yet. (Remember that crew training all but stops from June-September, inclusive). For some reason, BCF wants to keep the No. 3 route 1 boat at Swartz. I'm not sure if it's a crewing issue or traffic statistics that makes them do this, but that's the way it is. Because of this, either the SOBC or the New West would have to transfer to SWB. Since none of the SWB crews are trained on the New West, the SOBC gets transferred since it's almost the same thing as the SOVI. (Yay for standardization).
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Post by ferryfanyvr on Oct 12, 2009 17:00:28 GMT -8
I think the refit swaps of the SoBC and SoVI will have a ripple effect on the whole refit schedule. With the original version, when the SoBC was to return to service, the QoNW was going to replace the Alberni on rt. 30, while the CC replaced the SoVI and the CR took over for the CC. Now with the New West running as Number 1 vessel during the refits of BOTH the Spirits, the Alberni's refit will have to get pushed further ahead as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2009 11:49:29 GMT -8
SOVI is going in for refit now, instead of the SOBC. SOBC will refit after the SOVI. This information was found in today's Times-Colonist.
The fire on the SOVI did damage to the electrial system as well as the generator.
No other news to report, as the work at the local shipyard has quite slowed down and the majority of the men are now laid off.
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