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Post by ferrytraveller on May 5, 2008 17:50:28 GMT -8
It will be interesting to see what other minor or intermediate vessels go for refit before the summer.
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Post by Ferryman on May 5, 2008 18:55:27 GMT -8
Alright, after thinking about todays situation, regarding the Oak Bay, I think I've got the answer.
The crew member we were chatting with on the Queen of Tsawwassen yesterday had advised us that the Queen of Burnaby almost was not ready to leave Deas. The Burnabys engines were still ripped apart on Thursday apparently. So I would assume that crews doing engine work on the other vessels currently at Deas, would have all pulled in alot of OT trying to get the Burnaby running again in time. The Nanaimo would have had to of been in Deas, as there would be a maintenance schedule of what needs to be done by certain times, and also will be spending some time in the drydock to repair the propellar hubs. The leaky propellar hubs are the main reason why the Nanaimo is out of service, and originally had began to cause a problem only just a week after the Nanaimo was brought back into service, after she was out of service back in December. So to sum it up, I would think that the Oak Bay isn't in service today, seeming her maintenance work wouldn't have been complete, seeming most of the crew would have been rushing to put the Burnaby back together. The Burnaby would have probably had more priority, seemingthe Oak Bay being out of service isn't really causing any problems at the moment.
Also, to put some predictions to rest, the Island Sky will never see service on Route 9. She's too small for the route, according to the crew member we were talking to yesterday.
So my assumption would be that the Burnaby would have to be hauled off of her route, to replace the Nanaimo, while the Chilliwack would end up replacing the Burnaby. The Island Sky of course, still being on Route 7.
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Post by Retrovision on May 5, 2008 22:23:20 GMT -8
So my assumption would be that the Burnaby would have to be hauled off of her route, to replace the Nanaimo, while the Chilliwack would end up replacing the Burnaby. The Island Sky of course, still being on Route 7. There's still a question then about the depth at Little River - Comox Terminal and the Chilliwack's RADs. Which bridge crew was that during the circlepac trip where one captain joked that they'll use the RADs to dredge their way into the berth?
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Post by Mac Write on May 6, 2008 23:05:13 GMT -8
If the Tsawwassen is replacing the Naniamo and the Chiliwack is on Little river and the Burnaby is at Deas, what ship is on Comox?
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Post by Scott (Former Account) on May 6, 2008 23:08:02 GMT -8
Burnaby is back at Comox so the Tsawwassen to take over duties on route 9...
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Post by ferrytraveller on May 7, 2008 16:09:43 GMT -8
well at my training today at BCF, i heard from my trainer that the Queen of New West won't be ready till october.
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Post by Balfour on May 7, 2008 17:10:06 GMT -8
well at my training today at BCF, i heard from my trainer that the Queen of New West won't be ready till october. The pathetic thing is that I'm starting to believe that. When the C's were in for their MLU's they were mostly ready by this time of year, but the New West still looks very much in pieces...
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Post by ferrytraveller on May 7, 2008 17:17:43 GMT -8
this officer worked as a 2nd officer on the new west for 6 years said the New West burns alot of fuel. The fuel sensor they were using on board said when doing full speed they would burn 160L of fuel a minutes!! $1300 a minute, thats pretty darn expensive.
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Post by Political Incorrectness on May 7, 2008 18:04:21 GMT -8
Markus! Can you guys suggest that BC Ferries get a 4th Coastal!
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Post by yvr on May 7, 2008 21:54:29 GMT -8
this officer worked as a 2nd officer on the new west for 6 years said the New West burns alot of fuel. The fuel sensor they were using on board said when doing full speed they would burn 160L of fuel a minutes!! $1300 a minute, thats pretty darn expensive. That's over 8 bucks a litre, no wonder BCF's finances are in such sad shape!
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Post by Nickfro on May 8, 2008 8:15:46 GMT -8
According to the departures/arrivals page, the Queen of Oak Bay will be back up and running on Route 2 as of the 3pm sailing from Horseshoe Bay today.
On another note, the Esquimalt is now at Deas. Looks like it'll be the Coquitlam that'll do any MD sailings this weekend, if required.
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Post by queenofcowichan on May 8, 2008 11:00:45 GMT -8
Esquimalt at Deas Dock? Thanx for the Update.
I was hoping (a Long-shot) that the Esquimalt would provide extra sailing on Friday, So I could take a ride on her. Oh well.
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Post by Ferryman on May 8, 2008 17:38:18 GMT -8
Yeah, I think it's safe to say now, that the Esquimalt is officially done. I had a feeling this was going to happen once the Oak Bay came back into service. The chances of the Esquimalt doing anymore sailings now are almost null, as it would probably take a massive vessel breakdown for her to be pulled out of Deas.
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Post by Quatchi on May 8, 2008 18:37:27 GMT -8
this officer worked as a 2nd officer on the new west for 6 years said the New West burns alot of fuel. The fuel sensor they were using on board said when doing full speed they would burn 160L of fuel a minutes!! $1300 a minute, thats pretty darn expensive. Hey I don't wanna be a jerk or anything but your numbers got me thinking. If the New West burns 1300$ worth of fuel per minute that means she burns 156,000$ of fuel per crossing on route 30. Thats 1,248,000$ a day and 455,520,000$ a year for one ship. and if BCF gets 135 Million a year in subsidies and they report that they make 40 Million a year, where are they getting the other 405,520,000$ to run the New West per year? I just found this interesting, it does make me wounder how much the ships actually do burn in a day. Could it be you meant to say per hour. That makes her burn just over 5 million per year which seams more reasonable. Just food for thought. Cheers,
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Post by ferrytraveller on May 8, 2008 18:45:55 GMT -8
yah you might be right 1300 an hour is more likely correct.
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Post by Guest on May 15, 2008 19:49:04 GMT -8
NORTHERN ROUTE UPDATES
NADV May 18 - May 24th: Sailings are currently suspended in the system in anticipation of a delay of the NADV coming out of refit. More information is expected by mid afternoon on Thursday May 15 (15may08/cf)
found on the employee only part of BCFS website.
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Post by Scott on May 15, 2008 20:02:23 GMT -8
So they have to cancel their first week of Inside Passage day trips for the year?
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Post by Quatchi on May 15, 2008 23:35:58 GMT -8
Can anyone verify this? I am supposed to be on the May 18th sailing out of Port Hardy on the NORAD.
This better not be true. They haven't sent me any e-mails regarding this. Would they have done so by now?
CRAP,
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Post by Koastal Karl on May 16, 2008 8:33:30 GMT -8
You could give BC Ferries a call and see what is going on. As of today the Nor Ad is still at Deas so who knows what is going on. You would think if it was cancelled that they would put up a service notice.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on May 16, 2008 21:39:39 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on May 19, 2008 12:40:40 GMT -8
I was on the Bowen Queen this weekend, to/from Quadra Island.
Assuming that the Bowen Queen will be used again on Route 9A in the summer (ie. starting July 1st holiday, or the weekend before), I'm wondering if once again she will be delayed.
She's working at Quadra because the Powell River Queen is getting it's deck steel replaced. If (and the odds are good) that the PRQ will be late in returning (just like most other ships are), then the Bowen Queen's start in Route 9A might be delayed again, same as last year.
Maybe it's time to order the plywood and 2x4 lumber for the Tachek's bow, so that she'll be ready for early July service again this year.... ;D
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Post by Dane on Jun 3, 2008 14:39:44 GMT -8
1 Jun Queen of Nanaimo was towed out of the Drydock in North Vancouver; Queen of New Westminster took her place and remains there today.
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Post by ferryking on Jun 4, 2008 10:09:54 GMT -8
1 Jun Queen of Nanaimo was towed out of the Drydock in North Vancouver; Queen of New Westminster took her place and remains there today. According to Siitech...the Nanaimo then moved to Deas...getting ready for service on or around the 6th of June according to the previous service notice.
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Post by Nickfro on Jun 5, 2008 13:54:55 GMT -8
I was on the Bowen Queen this weekend, to/from Quadra Island. Assuming that the Bowen Queen will be used again on Route 9A in the summer (ie. starting July 1st holiday, or the weekend before), I'm wondering if once again she will be delayed. She's working at Quadra because the Powell River Queen is getting it's deck steel replaced. If (and the odds are good) that the PRQ will be late in returning (just like most other ships are), then the Bowen Queen's start in Route 9A might be delayed again, same as last year. Maybe it's time to order the plywood and 2x4 lumber for the Tachek's bow, so that she'll be ready for early July service again this year.... ;D If the PRQ ends up being late coming back into service, here is what I'd rather see: - Mayne Queen runs in place of the Bowen Queen on Route 9 from Tsawwassen (Thu-Sun & Hol M), but goes back to her usual position on days where the 2nd vessel out of Tsawwassen isn't used (Mon-Wed), if demand calls for it. -When the Mayne Queen is acting as the 2nd TSA boat, the Tachek AND Klitsa work out of Swartz Bay. Yes, the scheduling must change, but overall, the total car volumes wouldn't change much (only about 10 cars less, instead of 40). I'm assuming that the Klitsa isn't used as a relief/MD vessel on another route in the summertime. Somebody can please confirm that for me, I'm sure. You could also keep the Kahloke & Klitsa running on Denman, keep the Tachek running on Hornby, and temporarily use the Quinitsa on the SGI run from either end. . .most likely Swartz Bay in this case and put the Mayne Queen on the Tsawwassen end. This one seems neat but highly unlikely. Some people may think that this is not cost-effective for BCFS. However, in my mind, the demand is clearly there from both Tsawwassen and Swartz Bay, but especially from Tsawwassen, so that should overrule cost-effectiveness in this situation. Wouldn't it be funny if the Nimpkish made an appearance in the Southern Gulf Islands this summer! ;D I don't expect any of these to actually happen, as Flugel's thought (and what happened last year) will most likely occur if it comes to it. It's always fun thinking about better possibilities for unplanned circumstances! **EDIT. . .I just noticed that the 2nd vessel also does 2 round trips on regular Mondays to Long Harbour. That kills the idea of using the Mayne Queen out of Swartz Bay Mon-Wed. Therefore it'd have to be MQ out of TSA and Tachek/Klitsa out of SWB all week long.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Jun 5, 2008 15:26:32 GMT -8
well a note about the PRQ. The Powell River Queen is currently behind schedule and will NOT be ready to go back in schedule for the date posted. So That means the Bowen Queen will stay on the Campbell River Route and something else will fill in on route 9A.
Also the Northern Adventure will receive another 6 month refit after the summer, apparently it is an Electrical nightmare and is still causing problems.
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