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Post by Ferryman on Sept 6, 2006 20:23:43 GMT -8
I know the Tachek is a Deas, as someone pointed out. So maybe she was sent down there...Also, it could be the Bowen Queen, as she left Tsawwassen yesterday, to an unknown location apparently.
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Post by hergfest on Sept 6, 2006 21:35:08 GMT -8
Bowen Queen is usually stored at Fulfurd Harbor when she is out of service.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Sept 6, 2006 21:54:39 GMT -8
well its in the current colours and it looks to be like the nimpkish size or maybe the bowen
but from my BCIT marine campus it looked like a single ender, though i could be wrong
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Post by Curtis on Sept 7, 2006 7:25:26 GMT -8
Probably the Tachek then
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Post by ferrytraveller on Sept 7, 2006 9:18:21 GMT -8
thats probably it then
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Post by Koastal Karl on Sept 7, 2006 15:06:39 GMT -8
It's not the Bowen Queen as she is at Fulford as I saw her today at Fulford while I was out flying.
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Post by Ferryman on Sept 9, 2006 17:12:50 GMT -8
well its in the current colours and it looks to be like the nimpkish size or maybe the bowen but from my BCIT marine campus it looked like a single ender, though i could be wrong Just to confirm this....I was down at the Northshore Auto Mall, and it was clearly the Tachek sitting near the Sulpher plant. |
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 9, 2006 17:55:09 GMT -8
A little late, sorry, but the Tachek hasn't been at Deas since about the end of the summer schedule.
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Post by Curtis on Sept 9, 2006 21:57:19 GMT -8
I wonder why she is at the Sulpher Plant?
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Post by Ferryman on Sept 10, 2006 7:44:34 GMT -8
Well, I think Washington Marine has a drydock there for the barges mostly. So I would assume she's in the drydock, if they could drydock her there. Also, it looks like she's sitting where the Pacificat Voyager sat for a few weeks.
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Post by Mike C on Sept 10, 2006 13:43:27 GMT -8
Interesting. The Tacheck is sometimes stored at either Saltery Bay or Blubber Bay, but not in North Van.
So is this the annual refit or what?
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Post by Dane on Sept 11, 2006 16:41:10 GMT -8
They had structural problems with the Burr when they made design changes to her, that's why the superstructure took so long to appear.
So there's a partial answer to the "why is this taking so long" thing.
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Post by Neil on Sept 12, 2006 9:33:28 GMT -8
With regard to the 'Burr, I'm still puzzled at BC Ferries' assertion, which they repeated in their annual report, that the re-built ferry is going to be a relief vessel.
In the 46 year history of BC Ferries, they've never once bought, built, or re-built a vessel just for relief purposes. It seems odd to spend that much money on something that you don't have a permanent route for.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Sept 12, 2006 17:10:34 GMT -8
With regard to the 'Burr, I'm still puzzled at BC Ferries' assertion, which they repeated in their annual report, that the re-built ferry is going to be a relief vessel. In the 46 year history of BC Ferries, they've never once bought, built, or re-built a vessel just for relief purposes. It seems odd to spend that much money on something that you don't have a permanent route for. My take on this, is that they still haven't decided on where to place the new vessel ("hull 429"). If they classified the ship's route as "undecided", perhaps it would cause some panic or concern on the parts of minor route crew & customers, who would presumably already have some attachment to their current vessel. By classifying the new vessel as relief, they postpone the need to make & announce a decision on their intended route for her. Just my guess. |
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Post by Neil on Sept 12, 2006 18:34:50 GMT -8
Well, let's see now. There really are very few places in the system where the 'Burr could be used which would represent an improvement in service. The K-barges have never been used for Alert Bay/Sointula or Cortes because of open water, so that pretty much leaves Thetis/Kuper or Hornby. I don't think anyone on those islands would be upset in the slightest to see their usual boats disappear, if it meant a few more cars could be carried. Wherever the 'Burr goes, it probably won't inspire a lot of celebrating, as it would be a marginal step up. Or maybe they really will just use it for relief.
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Post by Ferryman on Sept 12, 2006 19:49:56 GMT -8
I could see the 'Burr on the Hornby-Denman run in the Winter, instead of the Tachek, while the Kahloke is on the Chemainus-Thetis-Kuper run. Or it could be the other way around, with the Kahloke staying where she is, and the 'Burr on the Chemainus route. Then that leaves the Tachek free for the winter, so she'll probably sit back at Texada again, unless they find a route that would be worth adding another vessel to. But that would be unlikely though I think. We'll just have to hang tight, and wait till this Novemeber.
Just a side note, with the 'Burr's current state....
After just one full week, the bridge is starting to shape now. Last week, the little passenger area, or crew area was just getting started.. for those of you who skipped through the posts on this thread a week ago.
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 12, 2006 23:01:40 GMT -8
Well, let's see now. There really are very few places in the system where the 'Burr could be used which would represent an improvement in service. The K-barges have never been used for Alert Bay/Sointula or Cortes because of open water, so that pretty much leaves Thetis/Kuper or Hornby. I don't think anyone on those islands would be upset in the slightest to see their usual boats disappear, if it meant a few more cars could be carried. Wherever the 'Burr goes, it probably won't inspire a lot of celebrating, as it would be a marginal step up. Or maybe they really will just use it for relief. Considering the timing regarding the age of the Mill Bay, the expensive alternatives to a ferry accross Saanich Inlet, and the fact that the former J.A.B. is being rebuilt and could be made to fit a number of different berth/dophin configurations, I could see them re-building Hull 429 to fit Brentwood and Mill bays. |
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Post by Curtis on Sept 13, 2006 7:24:05 GMT -8
It's a possibility
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Post by Doug on Sept 13, 2006 15:52:16 GMT -8
They want to get rid of that route.
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 14, 2006 12:04:30 GMT -8
They want to get rid of that route. If you believe everything you hear, Doug, please do me a favour when you turn 18: Don't Vote!  I'm joking, of course (please do vote!), but it still would be nice to see people using facts and reason, and not just regurgitating what they've heard. ;D I do know what you're talking about, but I also realize the high cost of a ferry alternative, leading me to question whether the BC government might have a plum subsidy to give out to a ferry operator on the route. |
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Post by blackshadow on Sept 14, 2006 18:16:21 GMT -8
Hi all: The vessel near the surphur plant is the Tachek. At present she under going major steel worker in #2 void space at Vancouver Shipyard. She here for her normal survey work and shaft work. She will remain there until about 20th of Oct. Your are getting inside information about this. I am not able to see whom I work for. The Burr on the other will be going in replace Quinista once it finished, sea trials and crew trained. Then I heard she will be going to Thetis for about 18 months. The Kilsta is said to going to Fraser river. But as everything about BCFS it subject to change. Burr does have problems and does look like be ready until mid December or early new year. I will be going there next week to have a look. |
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Post by Retrovision on Sept 14, 2006 21:33:57 GMT -8
Thank you, stranger. It makes sense to send the Klitsa up the Fraser River to Translink's Albion crossing, as there are regularly several sailing waits on that route currently, upto a half dozen at peak hours / peak direction for a 10 minute crossing, and the 6-lane Golden Ears bridge being built nearby to replace the route ( www.translink.bc.ca/Plans_Projects/GoldenEarsBridge/default.asp ) isn't due to be completed until 2009. |
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Post by Neil on Sept 14, 2006 21:49:36 GMT -8
I think the Klitsa fills in regularly when one of the other two ferries are out for repairs. They certainly don't have room for three on that run.
Wouldn't seem to make much sense to put the 'Burr on the Thetis run when Hornby is so much busier. Guess we'll see.
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Post by Ferryman on Sept 14, 2006 21:53:30 GMT -8
Is the 'Burr going to have anywhere near the same car capacity as the Quinitsa? Because I would think it's less, an I watched the Quinitsa leave with a full load a few weeks ago when I was on my way up to Comox on the Circlepac trip. So then, the Quinitsa would be the replacement vessel I take it, or is there plans for it to go somewhere too.....?
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Post by Neil on Sept 14, 2006 21:57:53 GMT -8
They would never replace the Quinitsa with the 'Burr, except temporarily for refit. The Quinitsa takes about 45 (not the 50 they claim), and the 'Burr will be about 34.
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