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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 7, 2022 15:17:10 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is now at Saltery Bay. She has made her way to Earls Cove. She is now on way back to Langdale.
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Post by Neil on Jun 19, 2022 21:50:19 GMT -8
She is going to be on The Bowen Island run in the fall during which the Capilano is receiving a refit for at least four weeks or so I wonder what Bowenians will make of this. In the past, the Bowen Queen was the fill in. Don't know if the ' Cumberland has ever been on the route. Obviously... at least, I think obviously... there won't be time to deploy the retractable car decks, so the effective AEQ will drop from 100 to 85. Still, better than having the Bowen Queen.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 20, 2022 18:34:13 GMT -8
I wonder what Bowenians will make of this. In the past, the Bowen Queen was the fill in. Don't know if the ' Cumberland has ever been on the route. Obviously... at least, I think obviously... there won't be time to deploy the retractable car decks, so the effective AEQ will drop from 100 to 85. Still, better than having the Bowen Queen. Maybe this will prompt BCFS to convert the Cumberland so that it has a gallery deck like the one on its sister.
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Post by Neil on Jun 20, 2022 21:15:55 GMT -8
I wonder what Bowenians will make of this. In the past, the Bowen Queen was the fill in. Don't know if the ' Cumberland has ever been on the route. Obviously... at least, I think obviously... there won't be time to deploy the retractable car decks, so the effective AEQ will drop from 100 to 85. Still, better than having the Bowen Queen. Maybe this will prompt BCFS to convert the Cumberland so that it has a gallery deck like the one on its sister. I wonder. She currently has more capacity with her two lift decks, and she will be usually found on route five, I guess in the junior 5A position, where there is perhaps more time to raise and lower. But gallery decks are more straightforward, and she's got a lot of years ahead of her. Don't know which option I'd put my betting money on.
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 20, 2022 21:24:35 GMT -8
Maybe this will prompt BCFS to convert the Cumberland so that it has a gallery deck like the one on its sister. I wonder. She currently has more capacity with her two lift decks, and she will be usually found on route five, I guess in the junior 5A position, where there is perhaps more time to raise and lower. But gallery decks are more straightforward, and she's got a lot of years ahead of her. Don't know which option I'd put my betting money on. It appears she will become the 'refit boat' for several routes (Bowen, Jervis Inlet, any others?). That would be a factor in deciding on a change. I had understood that using the current hoistable ramps often puts the Cumberland way behind schedule on the run she has been doing for the last 25 years.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 20, 2022 23:30:33 GMT -8
Maybe this will prompt BCFS to convert the Cumberland so that it has a gallery deck like the one on its sister. I wonder. She currently has more capacity with her two lift decks, and she will be usually found on route five, I guess in the junior 5A position, where there is perhaps more time to raise and lower. But gallery decks are more straightforward, and she's got a lot of years ahead of her. Don't know which option I'd put my betting money on. I think BC Ferries put galley decks on her they missed the opportunity during her midlife rebuild, I think that ship has sailed.
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Post by Ferryman on Jun 21, 2022 2:12:19 GMT -8
I wonder. She currently has more capacity with her two lift decks, and she will be usually found on route five, I guess in the junior 5A position, where there is perhaps more time to raise and lower. But gallery decks are more straightforward, and she's got a lot of years ahead of her. Don't know which option I'd put my betting money on. It appears she will become the 'refit boat' for several routes (Bowen, Jervis Inlet, any others?). That would be a factor in deciding on a change. I had understood that using the current hoistable ramps often puts the Cumberland way behind schedule on the run she has been doing for the last 25 years. She also has been relieving at Fulford Harbour in place of the Skeena Queen. It’ll be interesting to see what happens with the platform decks. As a rule of thumb, they apparently add a 20 minute delay overall during loading. They’re not only extremely slow to operate and setup/put away, but drivers parked on the ramp portion have to exit their vehicle before the ramp can either be raised or lowered. That in itself also takes time to convince drivers to exit their vehicle. They can return to their vehicle once the operation is complete of course. Because of that, regular commuters or people that know the routine may protest having to park on the platform deck, adding another delay factor. It’s time to move away from using platform decks on the ferries. Galleries are better to work with overall, but they too have their own little challenges which are non-issues in comparison to platform decks.
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Post by Kahloke on Aug 7, 2022 6:44:30 GMT -8
Speaking of Cumberland, I rode on it a couple of weeks ago, then spotted it at Otter Bay as we waited for our Salish Heron sailing to Tsawwassen cars boarding the late 19:00 Queen of Cumberland sailing to Otter Bay on Thursday, July 21 Cumberland at Otter Bay on Saturday, July 23
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 30, 2022 5:39:42 GMT -8
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Post by Neil on Sept 30, 2022 16:50:59 GMT -8
Retractable decks are not ideal for route five, and definitely not doable for Bowen.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Sept 30, 2022 17:21:28 GMT -8
Retractable decks are not ideal for route five, and definitely not doable for Bowen. I wonder why Queen of Cumberland didn’t get gallery decks during her mid-life refit, if platform decks are good for any route.
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Post by Neil on Sept 30, 2022 17:23:26 GMT -8
Retractable decks are not ideal for route five, and definitely not doable for Bowen. I wonder why Queen of Cumberland got gallery decks during her mid-life refit, if platform are good for any route. Huh? She doesn't have gallery decks...
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Post by Charles on Oct 9, 2022 15:16:38 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Oct 9, 2022 16:22:29 GMT -8
On the Queen of Cumberland last night! Thanks for this set of photos. I love this type of long-exposure photography
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Post by paulvanb on Oct 9, 2022 22:21:56 GMT -8
Retractable decks are not ideal for route five, and definitely not doable for Bowen. I wonder why Queen of Cumberland didn’t get gallery decks during her mid-life refit, if platform decks are good for any route. I don't know if she entered service life with auxiliary platforms, but it would be prudent to convert her over gallery decks. Bowen Island sees much truck traffic, making the ramps redundant. The locals are not happy.
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Post by Charles on Oct 9, 2022 22:22:16 GMT -8
On the Queen of Cumberland last night! Thanks for this set of photos. I love this type of long-exposure photography I love long exposures too! The Cumberland’s bridge just was perfect for me! Believe it or not, this was shot on an iPhone!
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 10, 2022 1:33:27 GMT -8
I wonder why Queen of Cumberland didn’t get gallery decks during her mid-life refit, if platform decks are good for any route. I don't know if she entered service life with auxiliary platforms, but it would be prudent to convert her over gallery decks. Bowen Island sees much truck traffic, making the ramps redundant. The locals are not happy. BC Ferries missed the boat on opportunity during her mid-life refit to get rid of auxiliary platforms and put gallery decks on her. I wonder if she will used her auxiliary platforms on route 4 and 7 since they’re not using on route 8?
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Post by WettCoast on Oct 10, 2022 9:27:10 GMT -8
I wonder why Queen of Cumberland didn’t get gallery decks during her mid-life refit, if platform decks are good for any route. I don't know if she entered service life with auxiliary platforms, but it would be prudent to convert her over gallery decks. Bowen Island sees much truck traffic, making the ramps redundant. The locals are not happy. I am fairly sure that those retractable platforms were there since day 1. However, I believe BCFS needs to remove them & replace them with gallery decks the same as those on the Cap. They would loose some capacity but gain a vessel much better able to 'keep' to schedule not only on its SGI regular assignment, but also on other routes where she will do relief duty in the future. The conversion should happen before next summer.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 10, 2022 10:01:45 GMT -8
I don't know if she entered service life with auxiliary platforms, but it would be prudent to convert her over gallery decks. Bowen Island sees much truck traffic, making the ramps redundant. The locals are not happy. I am fairly sure that those retractable platforms were there since day 1. However, I believe BCFS needs to remove them & replace them with gallery decks the same as those on the Cap. They would loose some capacity but gain a vessel much better able to 'keep' to schedule not only on its SGI regular assignment, but also on other routes where she will do relief duty in the future. The conversion should happen before next summer. I agree with but I doubt BC Ferries will because I think they would have done it during her mid-life refit.
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Post by alex912 on Oct 10, 2022 10:53:52 GMT -8
She used her platform decks only on one side on route 4 last year to match the capacity of the Skeena Queen
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 10, 2022 10:56:58 GMT -8
She used her platform decks only on one side on route 4 last year to match the capacity of the Skeena Queen By that logic they should do it on route 8, I tend not understand un-logical decision for same vessel replacing two similar size vessel.
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Post by Neil on Oct 10, 2022 11:04:01 GMT -8
She used her platform decks only on one side on route 4 last year to match the capacity of the Skeena Queen By that logic they should do it on route 8, I tend not understand un-logical decision for same vessel replacing two similar size vessel. There's no time to deploy the decks on the Bowen route. On route four, the vessel sits at Swartz Bay for half an hour, so they can do it there. There's no point in criticizing; BC Ferries has no other option, other than perhaps shifting the Skeena Queen to Snug Cove and moving the ' Cumberland to Fulford, but that's an expensive two boat shift.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 10, 2022 11:18:41 GMT -8
By that logic they should do it on route 8, I tend not understand un-logical decision for same vessel replacing two similar size vessel. There's no time to deploy the decks on the Bowen route. On route four, the vessel sits at Swartz Bay for half an hour, so they can do it there. There's no point in criticizing; BC Ferries has no other option, other than perhaps shifting the Skeena Queen to Snug Cove and moving the ' Cumberland to Fulford, but that's an expensive two boat shift. They could do a temporary schedule but that would require a least three months notice to allow TransLink to adjust bus schedule for Bowen Island routes. Queen of Cumberland does get massively delayed on route 4 with platforms decks while she running 30 minutes behind schedule. I personally think BC Ferries should use platforms decks on her but gave on routes she will service temporary schedule with service notice going out a three month ahead of it to allow the bus schedules to adjust to her schedule.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Oct 11, 2022 18:49:12 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is heading to Horseshoe Bay. Is this on first revenue service on another route other than route 5 in her life?
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Post by Dane on Oct 13, 2022 17:40:34 GMT -8
Queen of Cumberland is heading to Horseshoe Bay. Is this on first revenue service on another route other than route 5 in her life? Definitely been on Route 4. However, I do think it's the first revenue service away from Swartz Bay. Pretty good run at 31 years or so with the same home terminal, few boats achieve that.
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