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Post by mybidness459 on Jan 10, 2018 17:28:12 GMT -8
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Post by arrrrmatey on Jan 10, 2018 19:05:19 GMT -8
It looks like they are planning switching the vessels around like musical chairs, wherever the vessel lands wins a spot on that run. The ship not on a run gets time off. I've often wondered why they don't do this with other similar vessels. I would think that it would be worthwhile to avoid the cost re-positioning wherever possible. For example, when the Renaissance replaces the Inspiration for refit, why not just leave the Renaissance on route 30 until her next refit, and then use the Inspiration for routes 1 and 2? I understand that the Celebration has the buffet and will always get precedence on route 1, but aren't the Renaissance and Inspiration pretty much identical? I would guess that the Inspiration has twice as many hours on her engines as her sisters by now. Maybe rather than evening out the usage, they will just be sending her for the first MLU of the Coastal class in the next decade.
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Post by Neil on Jan 10, 2018 21:41:07 GMT -8
It looks like they are planning switching the vessels around like musical chairs, wherever the vessel lands wins a spot on that run. The ship not on a run gets time off. I've often wondered why they don't do this with other similar vessels. I would think that it would be worthwhile to avoid the cost re-positioning wherever possible. For example, when the Renaissance replaces the Inspiration for refit, why not just leave the Renaissance on route 30 until her next refit, and then use the Inspiration for routes 1 and 2? I understand that the Celebration has the buffet and will always get precedence on route 1, but aren't the Renaissance and Inspiration pretty much identical? I would guess that the Inspiration has twice as many hours on her engines as her sisters by now. Maybe rather than evening out the usage, they will just be sending her for the first MLU of the Coastal class in the next decade. The three Salish vessels are 'identical' now, but I bet it won't be too many years before there are differences put in place that might influence where they see service... unless BC Ferries really is serious about keeping them absolutely interchangeable. My sense is that casual observers, like me, are not always aware of perhaps subtle but significant differences between vessels which preclude the likelihood of 'musical ships' shifts in fleet deployment.
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Post by Scott on Jan 10, 2018 23:12:03 GMT -8
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Post by Departure Bay on Apr 15, 2018 19:43:59 GMT -8
The Salish Raven is on her way in to Departure Bay right now.
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Post by Low Light Mike on Apr 15, 2018 19:44:59 GMT -8
The Salish Raven is on her way in to Departure Bay right now. ...and then up to Little River (Comox) to relieve the Salish Orca starting Monday morning.
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Post by Departure Bay on Apr 16, 2018 10:27:12 GMT -8
The Salish Raven is on her way in to Departure Bay right now. ...and then up to Little River (Comox) to relieve the Salish Orca starting Monday morning. She was gone from Departure Bay when I woke up this morning, and is in Powell River now, just as you said she would be!
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Post by PNW_ferrynerd on Apr 16, 2018 11:35:52 GMT -8
Are they going to make any other "Salish" Class vessels
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Post by Shane on Apr 16, 2018 12:56:06 GMT -8
...and then up to Little River (Comox) to relieve the Salish Orca starting Monday morning. She was gone from Departure Bay when I woke up this morning, and is in Powell River now, just as you said she would be! Anyone know why the Orca is out of service again?
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Post by Mike on Apr 16, 2018 13:51:28 GMT -8
She was gone from Departure Bay when I woke up this morning, and is in Powell River now, just as you said she would be! Anyone know why the Orca is out of service again? I believe they are finishing up some warranty work that was unable to be completed during the last refit.
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Post by Neil on Apr 17, 2018 19:38:20 GMT -8
Just an arbitrary placement of this post/question.
I've often wondered why BC Ferries changed the crossing time for the Comox to Powell River route from 80 minutes to 90 minutes. I know the Queen of Burnaby was getting old, but even running her at fourteen knots didn't seem to make for more than an 80 minute crossing.
I was watching the Salish Raven on vessel tracking this evening, on the latter part of her 5:15 sailing from Powell River, and her 7:15 sailing from Little River. According to vessel tracking, the 7:15 left at 7:10, and was said to be 'stopped' at Powell River at 8:22... a 72 minute crossing. She looked to have been making about fourteen knots most of the way.
Has anyone been on board and actually timed the crossing on this route? I'm wondering if the vessel tracking page is actually accurate to the minute, in terms of arrivals and departures.
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Post by WettCoast on Apr 17, 2018 21:15:56 GMT -8
Just an arbitrary placement of this post/question. I've often wondered why BC Ferries changed the crossing time for the Comox to Powell River route from 80 minutes to 90 minutes. I know the Queen of Burnaby was getting old, but even running her at fourteen knots didn't seem to make for more than an 80 minute crossing. I was watching the Salish Raven on vessel tracking this evening, on the latter part of her 5:15 sailing from Powell River, and her 7:15 sailing from Little River. According to vessel tracking, the 7:15 left at 7:10, and was said to be 'stopped' at Powell River at 8:22... a 72 minute crossing. She looked to have been making about fourteen knots most of the way. Has anyone been on board and actually timed the crossing on this route? I'm wondering if the vessel tracking page is actually accurate to the minute, in terms of arrivals and departures. Neil, can you get access to your old schedules? I am fairly sure that the advertised crossing time used to be one hour & ten minutes ... web.archive.org/web/19981206083647/http://www.bcferries.com:80/schedules/mainland/copr.html
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Post by Neil on Apr 17, 2018 22:09:36 GMT -8
Just an arbitrary placement of this post/question. I've often wondered why BC Ferries changed the crossing time for the Comox to Powell River route from 80 minutes to 90 minutes. I know the Queen of Burnaby was getting old, but even running her at fourteen knots didn't seem to make for more than an 80 minute crossing. I was watching the Salish Raven on vessel tracking this evening, on the latter part of her 5:15 sailing from Powell River, and her 7:15 sailing from Little River. According to vessel tracking, the 7:15 left at 7:10, and was said to be 'stopped' at Powell River at 8:22... a 72 minute crossing. She looked to have been making about fourteen knots most of the way. Has anyone been on board and actually timed the crossing on this route? I'm wondering if the vessel tracking page is actually accurate to the minute, in terms of arrivals and departures. Neil, can you get access to your old schedules? I am fairly sure that the advertised crossing time used to be one hour & ten minutes ... web.archive.org/web/19981206083647/http://www.bcferries.com:80/schedules/mainland/copr.htmlThis schedule nerd is currently separated from his paper horde. I recall the crossing being stated as 1:40, back in the Comox Queen days, and I thought 1:20, once the bigger vessels took over. Don't recall 1:10.
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Post by FNS on Apr 17, 2018 23:40:55 GMT -8
This schedule nerd is currently separated from his paper horde. I recall the crossing being stated as 1:40, back in the Comox Queen days, and I thought 1:20, once the bigger vessels took over. Don't recall 1:10. Built in weather delays, like fog, to the new crossing time?
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Post by yak on Apr 18, 2018 7:35:31 GMT -8
Just an arbitrary placement of this post/question. I've often wondered why BC Ferries changed the crossing time for the Comox to Powell River route from 80 minutes to 90 minutes. I know the Queen of Burnaby was getting old, but even running her at fourteen knots didn't seem to make for more than an 80 minute crossing. I was watching the Salish Raven on vessel tracking this evening, on the latter part of her 5:15 sailing from Powell River, and her 7:15 sailing from Little River. According to vessel tracking, the 7:15 left at 7:10, and was said to be 'stopped' at Powell River at 8:22... a 72 minute crossing. She looked to have been making about fourteen knots most of the way. Has anyone been on board and actually timed the crossing on this route? I'm wondering if the vessel tracking page is actually accurate to the minute, in terms of arrivals and departures. Actual crossing time varies widely as the ship will usually aim for an ETA that is fuel efficient but there is reserve power if large loads are expected or the vessel falls behind schedule. I suspect the posted crossing time gives Route 17 this wiggle room.
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Post by Blue Bus Fan on Jun 13, 2018 14:09:51 GMT -8
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Post by chinook2 on Jun 26, 2018 15:13:53 GMT -8
I also recall seeing a published crossing time of 1:10 or 1:15--perhaps in the Sidney's days on the run??
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Post by WettCoast on Jun 26, 2018 21:05:24 GMT -8
I also recall seeing a published crossing time of 1:10 or 1:15--perhaps in the Sidney's days on the run?? I also recall it as 70 or 75 minutes.
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Post by Scott on Jun 29, 2018 22:06:25 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 3, 2018 20:00:41 GMT -8
Here's Eagle & Raven in Active Pass, seen from the Galiano Island bluffs. - July 2, 2018 DSC01010 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 8, 2018 16:39:56 GMT -8
Salish Raven views from Bluffs Park on Galiano Island, on July 2, 2018: 6:50pm on her way to pick-up more traffic from Long Harbour . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr ------------------------ 8:05pm DSC02757 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr DSC02768 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr . by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr DSC01020 by Mike Bonkowski, on Flickr
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Post by Charles on Jul 30, 2018 21:29:56 GMT -8
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Post by Low Light Mike on Jul 31, 2018 6:39:38 GMT -8
Finally finished, my photos of the Salish Raven It looks like you had a fantastic day at Georgina Point on Mayne. Thanks for your ferry views.
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Post by ragingpotatoyt on Aug 28, 2018 21:44:59 GMT -8
Trying to ferry spot is incredibly difficult when your waiting for the ferry to Swartz bay and the terminal is at capacity. If you look really close you can see the Salish Raven Date Taken: 8/13/2018
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Post by gulfislandkayaker on Oct 4, 2018 9:42:00 GMT -8
Propulsion system issues on the Raven this morning.
Just wonderful.
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