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Post by Retrovision on Oct 16, 2007 17:13:14 GMT -8
Tachek was, again as of Friday, at Deas. Another smaller vessel or two could have been there also, but because of the lines of sight from Hwy. 99 I could not see anymore vessels there other than the 'Chilliwack, 'Cowichan and Northern Adventure while passing.
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 16, 2007 17:26:03 GMT -8
When was the Van's last refit? It was immediately after the 'Saanich returned from refit, so November 2006. She was also pulled out of the water at the Victoria Shipyard. Then of course after the 'Vancouver, the 'Esquimalt went in for less than a week of work I think. The 'Saanich was the one who got the full exterior paint touch up, along with the upper vehicle deck gates. Looked real spiffy. powell river queen isn't at Vancouver drydock as of 5pm today (not that i have ever seen her there before) where is the tachek? klitas and kahloke? Last year, the PRQ was at Point Hope Shipyards in Victoria Harbour. Perhaps she went there? If not, then I'd assume either Allied or the smaller North Vancouver WMG shipyard, closer to the sulpher mounds. The Tachek as Graham mentioned, is at Deas. The Klitsa should still be at Deas as well, and the Kahloke should still be running between Denman and Hornby Islands.
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Post by Nick on Oct 16, 2007 17:48:41 GMT -8
Does that mean the Klisa is back from Fraser Shipyards? Wish I still had access to the fleet movements page.
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Post by Ferryman on Oct 16, 2007 18:12:58 GMT -8
Does that mean the Klisa is back from Fraser Shipyards? Wish I still had access to the fleet movements page. Fraser Shipyards? Well that changes everything. I had just assumed that she had been staying at Deas ever since the Kuper entered service.
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Post by Nick on Oct 16, 2007 18:18:48 GMT -8
Does that mean the Klisa is back from Fraser Shipyards? Wish I still had access to the fleet movements page. Fraser Shipyards? Well that changes everything. I had just assumed that she had been staying at Deas ever since the Kuper entered service. She was at Deas for a long time (until August, I think) and then went to Fraser for a major engine overhaul and some steel work. I was kind of puzzled as to why they are throwing money into her like that when she is not really needed anywhere.
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Post by ferrytraveller on Oct 16, 2007 21:47:16 GMT -8
well she(prq) wasn't at vancouver shipyards either, from what i could see. i am down in north van, monday - friday as i am going to school at bcit next to the quay there.
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Post by hwy19man on Oct 16, 2007 22:11:40 GMT -8
When was the Van's last refit? It was immediately after the 'Saanich returned from refit, so November 2006. She was also pulled out of the water at the Victoria Shipyard. Then of course after the 'Vancouver, the 'Esquimalt went in for less than a week of work I think. The 'Saanich was the one who got the full exterior paint touch up, along with the upper vehicle deck gates. Looked real spiffy. We all know about the woeful treatment the Esquimalt gets, does the Vancouver get the same treatment as the Saanich?
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Post by blackshadow on Oct 17, 2007 17:11:34 GMT -8
I was talking with senior chief engineer for Tachek this afternoon. Tachek is departing Deas this afternoon and over nighting at Twassassen before sailing to Hornby early tomorrow.
There is hope for the Klisa this spring. Management are looking into running Klisa and Kahloke to replace Quinitsa while she is in for her MLU present schedule being schedule for January. Between end of Klisa refit (Fraser Shipyard, major steel work) and filling for Quinitsa, word has it she will filling for Kuper (minor improvements) and fraser river vessels. After Quinitsa MLU becoming back up vessel for the summer (spare relief, just in case Quinitsa has problems).
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Post by Mirrlees on Oct 17, 2007 22:44:22 GMT -8
That will be quite a ride up the strait for Tachek with high winds forecast most of the day. She'll be bobbing around like a cork!
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Oct 18, 2007 6:17:37 GMT -8
That will be quite a ride up the strait for Tachek with high winds forecast most of the day. She'll be bobbing around like a cork! Just wait until the Kaloke has to come down
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Post by blackshadow on Oct 18, 2007 16:58:40 GMT -8
Kahloke has just tied up at Buckley Bay about 4:30 this afternoon about 2.5 hours earlier than planned due tail winds Tachek had coming up. ;D ;D Kahloke will be tie to float lead at Buckley Bay until end of December went it goes in to replace Quinitsa.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Oct 18, 2007 19:31:53 GMT -8
Blackshadow so first you say there is hope for the Klista this spring and it will probobly fill in with the Kahloke to replace the Quinitsa, and now you are saying that the Quinitsa will be removed at the end of December since when is January in the spring could you please make up your mind
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Post by blackshadow on Oct 18, 2007 21:13:08 GMT -8
Due to January 1st being the Holiday and Quinitsa refit starts on 2nd there fore Kahloke may go in service at end of December if not earlier. Can not have start of the MLU (first day yard) and removal the same day (8 hours of sailing time). I know I am pushing for Quinitsa to removed earlier due very large amounts of work to carry out in such a short time frame. The time frame is very tight and if something goes wrong (most times it does) than end of June would be July or August. I hear the crying from passengers as I write. There are complaints as it is now.
Klista isn't going into service on Denman ran until spring (maybe as early as April) when heavy traffic months. I don't make management minds. That is plan. I had written spring, where do you get January in spring. Plus Klista is said be replacing Kuper and Fraser River vessels before going into service on Denman run. Please read carefully before jumping down on some one.
What do I know? I am pot head as Dave Hahn and new reports calls us.
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Post by Neil on Oct 18, 2007 21:25:01 GMT -8
Guys: It's called Klitsa.
It would be really surprising if BC Ferries used both the Kahloke and the Klitsa on the Denman run. That would be a major increase in expenditures on a run where they've been gouging the customers with big fare increases to cover their costs.
Last year, when Quinitsa was out, they just added a few extra runs to the schedule with Kahloke.
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Post by blackshadow on Oct 18, 2007 21:58:48 GMT -8
My spelling mistake.
Neil: You very much correct. One thing management learned last year, was crews were worn out by all extra sailings. They are planning trying so that problem this year. Not only it is large increase in expenditures but try to find crews to run both ships. The Senior Master is having meeting in Victoria on Tuesday for new schedule while Quinitsa is out of service. Senior Master and his boss are pushing for two vessels. The biggest problem be getting the crews. They only plan to run Klitsa for 8-10 hours during heavy traffic times.
Had to stress of crews making all those extra sailings was the weather and power outages which many crew members were go home to cold bark homes last year. Many of crews are planning stress leave around Kahloke's return to service. Now that tells you it was that easy for few extra sailings (non schedule sailings was nearly 10 extra per day).
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Post by Neil on Oct 18, 2007 22:22:02 GMT -8
Very interesting, blackshadow. Thanks for that info. I suppose that if they did go with two vessels (still very skeptical), the Klitsa would be based on the Buckley Bay side, with some of the crew coming down from Little River?
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Post by Quatchi on Oct 18, 2007 23:26:55 GMT -8
Does anyone know when the Chilliwack leaves Deas. I neglected to ask that when I was there.
Cheers,
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Post by Retrovision on Oct 18, 2007 23:51:20 GMT -8
Does anyone know when the Chilliwack leaves Deas. I neglected to ask that when I was there. Cheers, I too am curious as to this timing, and even moreso about when the ' Tsawwassen is scheduled to leave Jervis Inlet, presumably for her last time ever.
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Post by Koastal Karl on Oct 19, 2007 10:15:26 GMT -8
Well seeming that the Tsawwassen is scheduled on route 9 Nov 25th I assume she will be up on Jervis till then unless they plan to put in her in quick refit before route 9 so hopefully she will be up there till then. I am actually planning to go up again to Powell River and down to Saltery Bay and do a roundtrip this time on the Tsawwassen one last time on Jervis Inlet. I want to ride the ol girl as much as possible. Anyone can join. Probably be during the week
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Post by Mirrlees on Oct 19, 2007 22:22:58 GMT -8
The Tsawwassen doesn't start until Monday Nov.26 according to the RBI.
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Post by refit question on Oct 25, 2007 12:20:21 GMT -8
When the Cowichan returns from refit...the Coquitlam does not appear anywhere in the RBI yet the aging Esquimalt is doing full time service on Route 30...this seems odd.
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Post by hergfest on Oct 25, 2007 13:52:56 GMT -8
Maybe it has something to do with the rumor of the Esquimalt being sold? The Oak Bay and Surrey still both need their refits as well.
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Post by queenofcowichan on Oct 26, 2007 16:50:41 GMT -8
There is no way the Esquimalt will be disposed of by BC Ferries untill atleast the Coastal R is put into service Unless BC ferries have decided to cancell or postpone the major refitt of the Q New West. The Reason is Plain and simple, They will not have enough ships to keep the schedual.
Hear is the vessle placement for Xmass:
Tswn to Swartz Bay: -Spirit of BC - Q Vancouver
Swartz Bay to Tswn -Spirit of VI -Q Saanich
TSwn-DP -Q Esquimalt
DP-Tswn -Q Alberni
DB-HB -Q Cowichan -Q Coquitlam
HB-DB -Q Oak Bay
HB-Langdale -Q Surrey
Keep in Mind from January to Mid March each of the Spirit ships will be put into thier refitt, The Queen of Saanich replaces the SP of VI and The Vancouver replaces the SPirit of BC AND replaces the Saanich while she replaces the Spirit of VI.
There is absolutley no way that BC Ferries will depart with the Esquimalt untill at least March of 2008.
In addition to Xmass Holidays there is the Spring Break and Easter holidays. Simply put they need the Esquimalt in order to maintain the scheduals.
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Post by queenofcowichan on Oct 26, 2007 16:56:22 GMT -8
In addition to the Oak Bay and Surrey, the Queen of Alberni will probably need sometime off before Summer. Asuming the Alberni will be transfered to Tsawwassen When the Coastal Inspiration arrives I would guess she will be out of service for a few days for crew training.
The only other option is that the Queen of Tsawwassen will replace the Q Burnaby and the Burnaby could be put on the Mid Island express.
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Post by Coastal Canuck on Oct 26, 2007 19:34:22 GMT -8
In addition to the Oak Bay and Surrey, the Queen of Alberni will probably need sometime off before Summer. Asuming the Alberni will be transfered to Tsawwassen When the Coastal Inspiration arrives I would guess she will be out of service for a few days for crew training. The only other option is that the Queen of Tsawwassen will replace the Q Burnaby and the Burnaby could be put on the Mid Island express. don't forget if the Coastal Renaissance is on the Departure Bay-Horseshoe Bay route then the Queen of Cowichan and Coquitlam can replace the Oak Bay, Surrey and Alberni
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